Witch Mountain > 19-11-2016, 02:07 AM
(29-09-2016, 07:28 PM)stellar Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.Well I just broke tradition with my method these are the first phrases ever decoded from the Voynich Manuscript. I had to get into the mind of John Dee a bit for this and with my knowledge and History of the Voynich it looks pretty clear what happened. John Dee wanted a great deal of Gold or needed it so he fooled Rudolf II. Rudolf was a depressed King who perhaps was enchanted with Dee and maybe the text was like an anti-depressant or an escape from his melancholy.
stellar > 19-11-2016, 02:12 AM
-JKP- > 19-11-2016, 02:58 AM
(19-11-2016, 02:12 AM)stellar Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.JKP can you give me a link or name of who else applied numbers to the VMS glyph's,
Thanks. Only time will tell if my system is proven! I figure when everyone is exhausted by trying to decode the VMS people will latch on to my system.
VViews > 19-11-2016, 03:40 AM
Witch Mountain > 19-11-2016, 05:17 PM
(29-09-2016, 07:28 PM)stellar Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.Well I just broke tradition with my method these are the first phrases ever decoded from the Voynich Manuscript. I had to get into the mind of John Dee a bit for this and with my knowledge and History of the Voynich it looks pretty clear what happened. John Dee wanted a great deal of Gold or needed it so he fooled Rudolf II. Rudolf was a depressed King who perhaps was enchanted with Dee and maybe the text was like an anti-depressant or an escape from his melancholy.
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-JKP- > 20-11-2016, 02:01 PM
(29-09-2016, 07:28 PM)stellar Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.Well I just broke tradition with my method these are the first phrases ever decoded from the Voynich Manuscript. I had to get into the mind of John Dee a bit for this and with my knowledge and History of the Voynich it looks pretty clear what happened. John Dee wanted a great deal of Gold or needed it so he fooled Rudolf II. Rudolf was a depressed King who perhaps was enchanted with Dee and maybe the text was like an anti-depressant or an escape from his melancholy.
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Anton > 20-11-2016, 11:15 PM
stellar > 21-11-2016, 12:04 AM
(20-11-2016, 11:15 PM)Anton Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.There's so much discussion in this thread that I beg the posters' pardon that I don't have time to read it in full. Nonetheless, I would like to repeat my question which I asked in one of the "numerology" threads but which was left unanswered, if I am not mistaken.
Does the "numerology method" provide for a distinct procedure which, when followed by two (or more) interpreters independently to translate Voynichese into plaint text, would yield the same result?! If there is, please share it. If there is not, then what's the talk about?
Koen G > 21-11-2016, 05:45 AM
stellar > 21-11-2016, 06:35 AM
(21-11-2016, 05:45 AM)Koen Gh. Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.Stellar, what Anton wants to know is the following: if I take any paragraph from the VM and present it to five people to decipher using your method, will the results be the same? I think the answer is no, unless you tell them beforehand what their translation should look like.You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.
In other words, the method you propose requires one to know the plain text, rendering the encription useless.
Additionally, the translation is a version with deviant syntax, spelling, word order and vocabulary. So even if you gave people the normal version of the text that was encrypted, they will still come up with different translations because there's a lot of fidgeting and guesswork required of the translator.
So what Anton means is that if we assume repeatability as a requirement for a solution - which we should - then your method does not survive the test. It's mostly guesswork and everybody will guess differently unless you tell them what to guess.