Koen G > 11-09-2016, 08:34 PM
Quote:The point is that Barschius assumes that the key to the problem is simply to identify the script.
Quote:It is of interest that seventeenth century herbalists could not identify the plants.
-JKP- > 12-09-2016, 02:02 AM
Diane > 12-09-2016, 03:23 AM
david > 12-09-2016, 05:58 AM
Quote: There was a tremendous interest in hieroglyphics (in the general sense) in those days, partly because there was fame to be had in decoding them, partly because they might reveal the location of treasures that hadn't yet been plundered, and partly because of the interest in using foreign alphabets as sources for cryptologic ideas.
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- discifrando is not in my Latin dictionary. It appears to be a neologism from Italian (or Spanish) and its meaning is clear: deciphering. Marci has used a very specific word here: not translating, nor reading. A word that is not in classic Latin, he had to search his memory for the exact word he wanted.
Quote:He had no interest in opening a new investigation, into some not terribly old manuscript from eastern Europe that did not interest him and that was sent to him unsolicited. He had only a passing interest in herbs, the remainder of the content would not have been attractive to such a scholar who could quickly dismiss them as astrology or natural magic.
What in the Voynich Manuscript would have called out to Kircher? What siren could whisper her song to lure him to its rocks? None. Only the challenge to interpret the words, and Kircher was no cryptologist. He might have simply assumed the whole thing was written in some Slavic script in natural language, something that had never interested him throughout his life.
No, Kircher was busy and distracted. He was overseeing the final peak of the building of his intellectual reputation, whilst worrying about spiritual matters, a severe case of overwork that would result in his collapse of 1667. This manuscript might have fascinated Marci, but it could not attract Kircher.
ReneZ > 12-09-2016, 06:26 AM
(11-09-2016, 08:34 PM)Koen Gh. Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.So well, I wonder what your opinions are about Baresch and his letter. Does anyone know if a scan of this letter exists somewhere?
Also, is anything else known about Baresch that might help us?
Koen G > 12-09-2016, 07:37 AM
Diane > 12-09-2016, 08:04 AM
Anton > 20-07-2017, 12:16 AM
ReneZ > 20-07-2017, 11:47 AM
(20-07-2017, 12:16 AM)Anton Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.While Koen discovered a reference to Baresch's master thesis, my raw search yielded one reference to an alchemical book co-authored by one Baresch: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view. , don't know if it'ss new to the Voynich research.
Among other things, this reference reveals an alternative form of the man's surname: "Barcius".
As far as I understand, the author has doubts whether the author of the cited book is Georg Baresch (as we now know thx to Koen there was another Bartschius called Michael).