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f116v is a decryption attempt?
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RE: f116v is a decryption attempt?
Mauro > 11 hours ago
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RE: f116v is a decryption attempt?
monisusa > 9 hours ago
(12-07-2026, 08:38 AM)ololololo Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.I have long suspected that the marginalia may be an attempt at translation or a translation of a manuscript. There is no way to prove this at the moment, but it is possible to speculate...
What if You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view. is an attempt to translate a recipe? It's possible that the person thought they could translate the manuscript (or they could, but they weren't very good at it), so they decided to take a random recipe and translate it on the last page. He may not have been able to translate the letter d, as it appears in the words, and he may not have been able to translate aror (oror) sheey, and the only thing that made sense in his "translation" was "so nim gas mich". "marix morix vix" may be a repetition as "qokedy qokedy qokeedy"
I could not find the combination aror sheey or oror sheey in the manuscript. There are recipes where the word before sheey is similar to oror: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view. (...ol rar sheey ylar...); You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view. (...airal sheey...); You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view. (...ar sheey...).
What do you think?
Hi, it is of utmost importance to read the gothic cursive correctly. You should not mix up the character r with v! If you look at the word "poxleber" you see how the author writes r, it has a stem. But it is different to the character v, which is open on top.
Therefore we have to read ma vix and mo vix. Vix/wix/wichs is the dialectal Bavarian word for wax. I explained this in my
study on You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view. which mentioned here under the thread "marginalia". It is not an attempt to translate a recipe, it is the recipe itself. Kind regards -
RE: f116v is a decryption attempt?
ololololo > 9 hours ago
(9 hours ago)monisusa Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.Hi, it is of utmost importance to read the gothic cursive correctly. You should not mix up the character r with v! If you look at the word "poxleber" you see how the author writes r, it has a stem. But it is different to the character v, which is open on top.
I didn't consider the poxleber line because there is no match for it.
(9 hours ago)monisusa Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.Therefore we have to read ma vix and mo vix. Vix/wix/wichs is the dialectal Bavarian word for wax.
In fact, it doesn't really matter in this theory whether it's mavix or marix, movix or morix. What matters is that this string corresponds to the string qekeeey qoparaiin olcheear chedar or (by the way, I noticed that there are actually three ars here, so "marix morix" and "maria" now match this string without any issues).
(9 hours ago)monisusa Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.It is not an attempt to translate a recipe, it is the recipe itself
First, in my interpretation, this is a spell.
Secondly, I've read your research, and although it's a bit of a stretch in terms of interpreting the abbreviations, I think it's quite consistent with my own interpretation. Perhaps if your translation is accurate, the author could be one of the VMS authors, and this recipe has something to do with Starred Parags.
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