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• RE: Did Voynich manuscript illustrator never see women breasts?

  Rafal > 2 hours ago

  How soon will this thread get locked? 
  
  Speaking seriously, it is hard to say what is the result of the illustrator not knowing the anatomy and what is the result of his bad drawing.
  
  

  Quote:In the VMS, it appears that the breasts are not effected by gravity.

  
  It is actually possible with small breasts. It may be a surprise to guys who spend too much time online but women with small breasts do exist 
  
  And there are actually many, many types of breasts in the nature:
  
  
  The bad thing about VM art is that women here are usually kind of plump but they have have very small breasts. In the nature it is the opposite: skinny girl = small breasts, plump girl = bigger breasts
  
     
  
  It also look like some of these breasts were added later or retouched but I will leave it to Jorge as it's his favourite subject 

• RE: Did Voynich manuscript illustrator never see women breasts?

  eggyk > 1 hour ago

  (2 hours ago)Rafal Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.It is actually possible with small breasts. It may be a surprise to guys who spend too much time online but women with small breasts do exist 
  
  And there are actually many, many types of breasts in the nature:

  
  Precisely, it's possible and honestly.. completely normal. And that image is just of the main examples of what's considered to be "normal". 
  
  It doesn't include larger or pregnant women, who can also have a large variety of shapes and sizes of breasts. And it is certainly not always larger body=larger breasts and vice versa either, although it tends to be the trend of course.

• RE: Did Voynich manuscript illustrator never see women breasts?

  JustAnotherTheory > 1 hour ago

  (2 hours ago)eggyk Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.I'll be the one to break the image deadlock. Take this example on You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view. :
   

  
  I stand corrected. Those do indeed look like the author had some knowledge of what he/she was drawing. In that case, another question arises: are there any other similar styled women illustrations? I certainly didn't find any in European literature. How about Arabic/Chinese/other?

• RE: Did Voynich manuscript illustrator never see women breasts?

  Koen G > 41 minutes ago

  The irony of this thread is the assumption that modern man's idea of the average breast is based on anatomical realism.
  
  Meanwhile I'll keep yelling at clouds a bit more. Medieval art not influenced by Renaissance ideals is not as concerned with realism as we are. It would be interesting (and more academically sound) to compare the way the Voynich artist treats human anatomy to efforts by other ca. 1400 works. What exactly is different, and what exactly is worse? I once did this for body proportions, and found it very informative.
  
  I really recommend sticking to art historical comparisons. Yes, because we as predominantly men discussing women's breasts has a chance to go wrong. But also because that's how we may actually learn instead of simply assuming the artist must have been some kind of virgin without a Playboy subscription.
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