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Who actually wants the Voynich solved?
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RE: Who actually wants the Voynich solved?
R. Sale > Yesterday, 12:29 AM
The ones between 3:00 and 6:00 are different having smooth borders all the way around the outside.
Also note the patterned marker in the text circle at 7:30. -
RE: Who actually wants the Voynich solved?
Grove > Yesterday, 12:44 AM
Tolerance doesn’t mean agreement to me. I also find bizarre claims like speaking to dead people or aliens etc… to be far less than helpful, but I can choose not to engage with them. For questionable observations I like to think, even if I find something doubtful that I can say out loud that it isn’t exactly convincing without being insulting.
Nowadays, I mostly just read what people are thinking. Even some misguided theories can cough up something that might not have been observed before. Honestly, I think that’s true of most of my early research into the VMS. -
RE: Who actually wants the Voynich solved?
ReneZ > Yesterday, 12:57 AM
There is not only the sentiment that it seems as if some people don't want to see a solution.
I have frequently been confronted with an explanation why I don't want to see a solution. (Usually when asked to comment on a solution, and not responding as positively as expected).
This is simply because then all the time I would have spent on this would have been for nothing.
Beside the faulty logic, this is another example of people being so convinced about something that no counter-argument can change the opinion. (Even facts, for that matter) -
RE: Who actually wants the Voynich solved?
Koen G > Yesterday, 07:04 AM
(Yesterday, 12:57 AM)ReneZ Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.This is simply because then all the time I would have spent on this would have been for nothing.
I suspect the mechanism behind this is that theorists can only imagine an approach to the manuscript similar to their own. They think you're dug in somewhere, fortified your location with barbed wire and shoot down any theory that moves elsewhere.
There is a grain of truth to this, in the sense that we're all human and vulnerable to the biases that affect the human mind. But those who value critical thinking and the objective weighing of evidence do their best to eliminate these biases, while theorists feed them until they burn like a roaring flame. -
RE: Who actually wants the Voynich solved?
nablator > Yesterday, 07:12 AM
(26-06-2026, 04:46 PM)Stefan Wirtz_2 Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.When you turn to the transliterations of "Glen Claston" , it shows quite normal h2 values near 2.9, which is quite ok for medieval texts, while Takahashi and Zandbergen translits stay at 2.1 ~ 2.3. Or has somebody made a mistake?
Yes. You.
h2 = 2.87 is for the entire voyn_101.txt file.
h2 = 2.59 without metadata (folio and line numbers, line ends "=" and "-"), with spaces and with (or without) half-spaces.
I haven't seen a medieval text in any language with h2 under 3, unless it is very short. Normal for medieval Latin texts without abbreviations, majuscules, punctuation is 3.3.
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