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Voynichese is a numeric cipher?
- Voynichese is a numeric cipher?
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RE: Voynichese is a numeric cipher?
ololololo > 6 hours ago
(Yesterday, 10:23 PM)oshfdk Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.but how much time will it take to find the correct decoding?
Well, I just guessed the words I saw. Of course, the phrase doesn't make sense on its own, but the words were still guessable. My goal was to solve the anagram...
Plus, I did it at speed to see how quickly I could see the words.
Either it's a problem with the algorithm, or I'm just not paying attention. I don't know what else can be made out of VROE, for example.
However, I wouldn't say it was difficult (at least I quickly guessed the words, even if they were wrong).
Neither the first nor the second stage of decryption is particularly difficult, but it does take some time.
It's worth trying to "torture" other users in this way to understand how it works for them, not just for me.
I don't think my "efforts" will really prove anything to you (at least it will always be a little easier for me than for others
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P.S. It would also be more reasonable for you to try to see if you can use this cipher yourself (i.e., if you can encrypt text, find letters, assemble words, anagrams, etc.). It's just that if I solve the anagrams incorrectly, I don't know what it will prove. If I don't solve them, perhaps another English speaker will solve them correctly... -
RE: Voynichese is a numeric cipher?
oshfdk > 6 hours ago
I don't know if there is an error in the script, but some of the letter values look wrong. In any case, thank you for participating in this experiment. To me it's overwhelmingly clear that this cipher is too complex to read, which doesn't align well with my expectations about what style of a cipher it should be. -
RE: Voynichese is a numeric cipher?
ololololo > 6 hours ago
(6 hours ago)oshfdk Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.To me it's overwhelmingly clear that this cipher is too complex to read, which doesn't align well with my expectations about what style of a cipher it should be.
Well, it's relative. The most important thing about it is simply to solve the anagrams, which can be more time-consuming than deciphering the letters.
In my opinion, this cipher is simple in itself, because at the moment it's just a slightly more complex substitution. All you really need to do is decrypt the letters and get all the anagrams, and you'll have the plaintext.
It's worth considering making it a bit more challenging...
(6 hours ago)oshfdk Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.In any case, thank you for participating in this experiment.
And thank you very much!
The experiment proves that I'm not suitable for such experiments...
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RE: Voynichese is a numeric cipher?
ololololo > 1 hour ago
The word cheody in my mini-code can be obtained by gluing o o o dy (o o o f). The first two o's combine to make che, and then we add ody.
Similarly, you can get some other words, such as chedy. They appear when you encrypt the text (well, as che o dy and che dy, respectively).
The following issues are currently unresolved:
Also, some garbage elements can be inserted directly INSIDE a number. You will still understand that it is null, for example dy - dyty (found on f19r). The combination of yt makes no sense.
Two units (in) can also be changed using garbage gibbets, for example, in - yty (by removing the gibbet, you get yy, which is equivalent to in).
There is plenty of room for "Voynichization"... However, there are no specific rules for secondary encryption that can provide the desired statistics...
However, there are currently no other issues with the cipher. Or I don't see them... -
RE: Voynichese is a numeric cipher?
oshfdk > 1 hour ago
Maybe I misunderstood something, but you couldn't decode the message I created using the encoder script, is this correct? Which means the cipher simply doesn't work?