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[split] Bologna, Biblioteca Universitaria, Cod. gr. 3632
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[split] Bologna, Biblioteca Universitaria, Cod. gr. 3632
ReneZ > 23-07-2024, 03:05 AM
While looking for parallels to the Voynich MS, we must be aware that it is entirely likely that any relevant manuscripts may now be lost. Fortunately, there are also manuscripts that are not lost, but are just not very well known, either in general or to the amateur community interested in the Voynich MS.
Just speaking for myself, and to give an example, I had not heard of Bologna MS Gr. 3632 before.
I just checked Minta Collins, where it is mentioned twice, the first entry giving some interesting details.
She calls it mid-15th century, and online I saw an estimated origin of 1440. This is a bit on the late side, but still roughly contemporary with the Voynich MS. It is mainly an example of an interesting comparison, and evidence that there are still other manuscripts that have not come down to us.
It seems to have interesting parallels to Vat.Chigi F.VII 159 which set the theme of this thread, and Paris BN Grec 2108. It is, however, a compilation from many sources. There don't seem to be many illustrations online, but the few that one can find are quite interesting.Below, some herbs apparently from Dioscorides, with - I find - very interesting roots.
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RE: f18v...Dioscorides...something about those leaves
ReneZ > 23-07-2024, 03:38 AM
Here is an excerpt of Collins, p.83.
Quote:Bologna, Biblioteca Universitaria, Cod. gr. 3632 is a collection of medical and astrological
texts with crude illustrations copied from a variety of sources which Olivieri dated to the
fifteenth century. The light brown minuscule script is in a number of hands but the
illustrations are all by the same artist. There are portraits of doctors in medallions (fols 17-
26), illustrations of doctors and pupils, and of animals and snakes, together with the majority
of illustrations found in Vatican Chigi. F.VII. 159 mixed haphazardly with pictures of
bandaged legs, heads and bodies. Between folios 386-417 are crude copies of the illustrations
of plants from the Alphabetical Herbal Recension and of the prefatory illustratinos of the
Juliana Anicia Codex. The latter are dispersed out of order on several folios. On fol. 377
there is an image of Dioscorides on an X-framed stool [ ... ]
She emphasises only the herbal part, but there are zoological, magical and alchemical contents as well.
Edit: this description of the MS includes some intriguing items, like a mermaid:
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I include a brief selection of clips from images found on the internet.
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RE: f18v...Dioscorides...something about those leaves
Aga Tentakulus > 23-07-2024, 08:03 AM
Interesting, with the plants you can immediately see that there are 3 matches.
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RE: f18v...Dioscorides...something about those leaves
nablator > 23-07-2024, 11:43 AM
(23-07-2024, 03:05 AM)ReneZ Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.It seems to have interesting parallels to Vat.Chigi F.VII 159 which set the theme of this thread, and Paris BN Grec 2108. It is, however, a compilation from many sources. There don't seem to be many illustrations online, but the few that one can find are quite interesting.Below, some herbs apparently from Dioscorides, with - I find - very interesting roots.
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BU 3632
DG97EEB > Yesterday, 08:46 PM
I've searched for discussions on this and can find none
This is a wonderful 900 page compendium from Constantinople in the middle 15th century but now in Bologna.
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There's a glyph page (no overlap with VMS sadly)
The palette is very similar, particularly the vessels with compounds in them
It's different enough that it's not a direct source, but there's some interesting similarities as well...
The bottom middle root on that herb is particularly familiar.... -
RE: BU 3632
nablator > Yesterday, 09:41 PM
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RE: BU 3632
DG97EEB > Yesterday, 09:47 PM
(Yesterday, 09:41 PM)nablator Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.
(Yesterday, 08:46 PM)DG97EEB Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.I've searched for discussions on this and can find none
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Merci!
I searched on Google, I searched on the advanced search... Nothing came up..
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RE: [split] Bologna, Biblioteca Universitaria, Cod. gr. 3632
Koen G > 3 hours ago
I did some splitting and merging, hopefully this will be more searchable in the future.
When I first learned about this MS, one of the pages drew my attention more than others. Marco and I spent some time trying to get to the bottom of it ("trying" being the key word there), but I don't think I ever wrote about it. It's fascinating though, I'll check my notes and write something up.