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Voynich Manuscript as an (imperfect) phonetic transcription of spoken Friulian



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(This is a reason why LLMs cannot be trusted to assess or assist with Voynich theories).
  • RE: Voynich Manuscript as an (imperfect) phonetic transcription of spoken Friulian

    ReneZ > Today, 01:04 AM

    This is where I think that judging solution proposals for LLM / AI influence becomes tricky.
    To me this looks hybrid, even when the written text screems out LLM. (Not because of the em dashes).

    LLM's have long moved away from simple substitution approaches and seem to have 'understood' that Eva is not the meaning of the characters. They tend to take the procedural/algorthmic approach. 

    I imagine that the Eva/substitution concept could in principle be 'forced upon' the LLM by an interrogator.
    Just guessing.

    On a side note: I think we already had a Friulian proposal before, and these dialectical features are grossly insufficient to explain low bigram entropy.
  • RE: Voynich Manuscript as an (imperfect) phonetic transcription of spoken Friulian

    funkylibrarian > Today, 01:47 AM

    To again be transparent, I admit that most of the post was generated by AI. That being said, I'd love for folks to consider, dispute, or engage with the idea that the VM text could be imperfectly transcribed Friulian. I have seen some mentions of Fruilian in relation to the text, but nothing that has explored Fruilian as a primarily unwritten language where a transcriber would necessarily need to invent symbols to represent phonetic sounds typical to that language. This is primarily a historical hypothesis asking for evidence or clarification: As Fruilian was a common, primarily unwritten language from the time and location that the VM has generally been assumed to have originated in, it might make sense to take a deeper look at that language as a source of the VM text.
  • RE: Voynich Manuscript as an (imperfect) phonetic transcription of spoken Friulian

    Koen G > 10 hours ago

    This is not allowed on the forum. Even for you, this is not productive since all you get is confusion about your AI usage. Please be human.
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