• Folio start gallows
  • Folio start gallows

    bunny > 28-05-2020, 05:03 PM

    Also posted on another discussion list.

    Considering almost all folios start with 1 of 4 gallows with the occasional
    o thrown in front how is that explainable in terms of natural language?  Do
    any manuscripts or books start with only a choice of 4 letters?  If not
    alphabet letters could they show which "code subset" to refer to. Could it
    be a 4  subset rotating code or even 4 completely different codes used? 


    Bunny
  • RE: Folio start gallows

    davidjackson > 28-05-2020, 05:59 PM

    Hi bunny long time no speak! 
    Yes it could be a rotating code. 
    But I personally think it's more likely to be a form of chapter marker, like a pilcrow.
  • RE: Folio start gallows

    bunny > 28-05-2020, 11:51 PM

    (28-05-2020, 05:59 PM)davidjackson Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.Hi bunny long time no speak! 
    Yes it could be a rotating code. 
    But I personally think it's more likely to be a form of chapter marker, like a pilcrow.

    Yes, a very long time, but I guess a lot of us have more time on our hands at the moment to put back into the manuscript.

    The pilcrow is not a form of paragraph marker I know much about in manuscripts.  Is it found in various forms within a manuscript or folio or is it just a singular form usually.  If it is a pilcrow would that work when found also amongst the text with regularity?

    Bunny

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  • RE: Folio start gallows

    -JKP- > 29-05-2020, 01:00 AM

    I think the first gallows in each paragraph is more similar to a pilcrow than it is to a letter.
  • RE: Folio start gallows

    ReneZ > 29-05-2020, 11:03 AM

    In a recent count I did, I found 711 paragraph starts.

    Of these, 604 (85%) start with p,t,k,f:
    325 * p
    170 * t
    77 * k
    32 * f

    The remaining 107 (15%) start with q, o, "introducing gallows", d, s, y, "rare character", sh, l or ch.
    In that order.
    One conspicuous aspect is that all intruding gallows (15) have a single leg.
  • RE: Folio start gallows

    -JKP- > 29-05-2020, 11:59 AM

    (28-05-2020, 11:51 PM)bunny Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.
    ,,,
    The pilcrow is not a form of paragraph marker I know much about in manuscripts.  Is it found in various forms within a manuscript or folio or is it just a singular form usually.  If it is a pilcrow would that work when found also amongst the text with regularity?
    ,,,


    Yes, the medieval pilcrow/capitulum symbol was used within text with great regularity in both Greek and Latin texts. I have hundreds of examples (maybe as many as 1000 examples).


    Edit, addition... I can't remember if I posted this on my blog or on the forum, but this is an example of in-text pilcrows/capitulum symbols that I posted a few years ago: