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  Jorge_Stolfi > 10 hours ago

  (Today, 02:39 AM)R. Sale Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.The line is a nebuly line.

  
  We may call it "nebuly" for the lack of a better name.  But is is not the "nebuly line" of heraldry.  
  
  The lines we are referring to are simple wavy lines where each crest or through is  swollen into knobs.  They look like the nebuly lines of heraldry. But in the VMS they are used as the edges of pools of water or rain clouds.  Not in blasons.
  
  

  Quote:The VMs artist's familiarity with the use of a nebuly line as a cloud band / cosmic boundary is demonstrated in the VMs cosmos.

  
  Those lines are not at all the "nebuly lines" of heraldry.  They are cloud-bands or wolkenbands, and have a very different and specific shape.  They are generally rendered as 3D objects, not simple lines -- as twisted ribbons with a thick edge with little bumps.  They are common in manuscripts of the period, to indicate the boudary between Earthly and Heavenly domains; but, again, they are not used in blasons.
  
  All the best, --stolfi

• RE: The Modern Forgery Hypothesis

  Legit > 2 hours ago

  (Yesterday, 10:21 PM)proto57 Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.Anyway, here are my point-point-comparisons to a particular armadillo illustration: The Gesner armadillo. This particular one not only has the most number of comparable points (pointy ears, upturned snout, but also one very particular feature of both is the same: The scales are drawn backwards:

  
  Armadillos don't have scales like that.
  
     
  
  The artist here doesn't seem to know the difference either and has unfortunately drawn the scales of a pangolin on two creatures.  Is this hubris, or deliberately meant to mislead us?
  
     
  
  Here's a pangolin from India with it's scaly hide.
  
     
  Here is an armadillo compared with a fish.  You see, a pangolin has overlapping scales like a fish, but an armadillo does not.  The armadillo pectoral shield, banded shield and pelvic shield were drawn correctly by other medieval artists.
  
     
  
  Medieval artists didn't just draw a bunch of scales and call it an armadillo.  Here you can see a clear separation between it's pectoral shield, banded shield and pelvic shield.
  
     
  
  The obvious interpretation is that it's meant to be another dragon, and not the great sleeping armadillo that lays over the heavens.
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