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Catalan Zodiac Rose S.XV
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RE: Catalan Zodiac Rose S.XV
oshfdk > 28-08-2025, 09:28 AM
(28-08-2025, 07:22 AM)quimqu Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.Well, I found the other page (and the next ones). Here it is:
What the qokedy are these? Fractions? Ranges? I mean, L-like thing could tentatively be 50, but the positioning seems odd, and then it can have an upside down L attached to it. -
RE: Catalan Zodiac Rose S.XV
Koen G > 28-08-2025, 09:33 AM
Just Roman numerals? 88, 19, 19. I guess the weird thing is C? 140... -
RE: Catalan Zodiac Rose S.XV
oshfdk > 28-08-2025, 09:38 AM
So, it's
88, 19, 19, 140
29, 9, 77, 192
70, 183, 112?
What are the circles? Most of them are over the final I, but there is one over X in CLXXXXºII -
RE: Catalan Zodiac Rose S.XV
oshfdk > 28-08-2025, 09:41 AM
Ok, it appears they put a circle whenever anything is repeated 4 times, be it I or X, just to make it stand out. -
RE: Catalan Zodiac Rose S.XV
quimqu > 28-08-2025, 09:45 AM
The columns are labelled mesos (months), dies (days), ores (hours), punts (points).
I think Koen is right, they should be numerals. But I don't know what is the meaning of "points", I mean I don't know what kind of points are they. -
RE: Catalan Zodiac Rose S.XV
Koen G > 28-08-2025, 11:26 AM
(28-08-2025, 09:41 AM)oshfdk Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.Ok, it appears they put a circle whenever anything is repeated 4 times, be it I or X, just to make it stand out.
That's actually quite convenient, it always takes me a moment to see if something is repeated 3 or 4 times, especially with the minims. A problem they wouldn't have with the subtractive method, I guess. -
RE: Catalan Zodiac Rose S.XV
MarcoP > 28-08-2025, 11:41 AM
The circle is letter 'o' and marks the number as an ordinal. In Italian:
VIIII= nove (nine)
VIIII°= Nono (ninth) -
RE: Catalan Zodiac Rose S.XV
oshfdk > 28-08-2025, 11:57 AM
(28-08-2025, 11:41 AM)MarcoP Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.The circle is letter 'o' and marks the number as an ordinal. In Italian:
VIIII= nove (nine)
VIIII°= Nono (ninth)
Thanks! But I still think it's more likely this particular o in the image above is used to mark four of the same characters in a row. Marking just a random subset of numbers as ordinals and only those that have I or X repeat 4 times would be too much of a coincidence. As far as I can see, in that table this o appears over all instances of IIII or XXXX and nowhere else.
Edit: one exception though: CXXXX has no o, unless this is not a C, but some kind of modifier, making this ?XXX -
RE: Catalan Zodiac Rose S.XV
oshfdk > 28-08-2025, 12:03 PM
I'm not really convinced the below are 140 and 192. In both cases the leftmost upside-down L sign is attached to the next sign as some form of modifier, and also in this case ?XXXX has no o over XXXX, as if the first X in the sequence should be interpreted differently, not as X.
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RE: Catalan Zodiac Rose S.XV
oshfdk > 28-08-2025, 12:11 PM
Also, there are 13 months here, with some kind of Jaber-something between January and February, or maybe one name overwritten over the other. Maybe a mistake? Could someone read these month names?