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• RE: Month names collection / metastudy

  Koen G > 20-02-2026, 02:45 PM

  To me as a non-native speaker, French oi and ui sound just the same. However, these are now digraphs, and you need the "i" in there to get the sound. "Jong" would not sound like "juin", but like "long".
  
  I guess one could argue that the vowels in jong and iollet were meant to be digraphs, but then someone else could say they were meant to be "u". This basically means we'd be ignoring these two months since we assume the writing on the page is unreliable.

• RE: Month names collection / metastudy

  eggyk > 9 hours ago

  I've been searching through german almanacs for month names and I have a few thoughts. (You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.)
  
  Firstly, August is universally referred to as a word with "Augst" from any german document from ~1400 - ~1600. That includes "Augst" on its own, as well as "Augstmon", "Augstmond", "Augstmonat", "Augstmaent", "Augstmō". Due to this, I find it more likely our "Augst" is the germanic name, as opposed to an obscure French/swiss dialect that has re-introduced the g into "Aoust".
  
  I did find You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view. that contains both Augst and August. 
     
  
  Something interesting happens post 1500, though. The german names begin to be listed alongside the latin names in these lists. Clearly for some reason both sets of month names became relevant in society. We might be looking for an obscure dialect when we should be looking for an appropriate multicultural city where many languages were commonplace. 
  
  Either way, there were certainly learned people who understood and chose to display both the german and latin names. Perhaps somewhere the same thing was done with french/german. 
  
     
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• RE: Month names collection / metastudy

  eggyk > 8 hours ago

  (20-02-2026, 01:40 PM)Koen G Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.There is Sauvaget's astrolabe, but iirc, we don't know where that's from.

  
  I found it on JSTOR, for what its worth.  The original black and white photo was 1 of 12 images, including other true colour images and different angles. Unfortunately it does just say "France" for its creation site. 
  
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  It also had the month ring seperated for a photo, so you can see each month clearly. 
  
  

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• RE: Month names collection / metastudy

  nablator > 7 hours ago

  (9 hours ago)eggyk Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.Due to this, I find it more likely our "Augst" is the germanic name, as opposed to an obscure French/swiss dialect that has re-introduced the g into "Aoust".

  
  It's not unlikely to find it in Eastern French/Swiss dialects, probably because of the Germanic influence.
  
  Many instances on Google books:
  You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.="mois+d'augst"
  "mois d'augst , l'an mil quatre cents et trent..."
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