Torsten > 12-07-2026, 09:34 AM
Quote:In two recent companion papers, Layfield and Davis apply latent semantic analysis (LSA) to the Voynich Manuscript and derive two hypotheses: that the manuscript was conceived as a sequence of single-bifolium quires (“singulions”) later bound out of order, and that the intended sequence of bifolia can be recovered by maximizing textual similarity across page transitions. This review examines both hypotheses against the papers’ own published data. The empirical core of the first hypothesis, an elevated textual similarity within physical bifolia, is real and independently confirmed. The reading-order interpretation built upon it, however, is underdetermined by the data and contradicted by the authors’ own explanation of the herbal section. The second hypothesis rests on the premise that the intended order of a meaningful text maximizes lexical similarity between adjacent pages. This premise is refuted by the authors’ own calibration manuscripts, and the resequencing experiment lacks two controls that would make its reported improvements interpretable: a permutation null distribution and a calibration on deliberately shuffled known text. A similarity-based resequencing of the manuscript is nevertheless methodologically sound under one specific model of the text, namely that page-to-page similarity reflects proximity of production rather than continuity of meaning. Three concrete experiments, each executable with the authors’ existing pipeline, would discriminate between the competing interpretations.
Rafal > 12-07-2026, 12:02 PM
LisaFaginDavis > 12-07-2026, 01:40 PM
Torsten > 12-07-2026, 08:33 PM
(12-07-2026, 12:02 PM)Rafal Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.Is it true that 4 plants appearing on a single bifolio share the same vocabulary that they don't share with other plants from another bifolios?
This would be really hard to explain if the text was a natural language.
Are there any more articles about BAAFU?
Torsten > 12-07-2026, 09:02 PM
(12-07-2026, 01:40 PM)LisaFaginDavis Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.we say quite explicitly that the LSA data are NOT helpful for the herbal section
Pointless.. > 15-07-2026, 05:54 PM
(12-07-2026, 08:33 PM)Torsten Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.A clear example is the distribution of EVA m in Quires 1–3. On some bifolia 36 and 17/24, EVA-m is used frequently across all four pages. On adjacent bifolia 2/7 and 20/21, m does not appear at all (see You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.). The all-or-nothing pattern follows bifolium boundaries, not page sequence — neighbouring leaves in the bound quire have completely different m usage.
LisaFaginDavis > 15-07-2026, 06:17 PM
(12-07-2026, 09:02 PM)Torsten Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.(12-07-2026, 01:40 PM)LisaFaginDavis Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.we say quite explicitly that the LSA data are NOT helpful for the herbal section
This applies to the resequencing experiment, where the herbal section was excluded. However, the herbal quire data in Table 8 of your paper is central to the singulion hypothesis itself. The paper reports conjoint/facing differentials for all seven herbal quires — for instance Quire 6 shows conjoint 0.448 versus facing 0.166, and Quire 7 shows conjoint 0.336 versus facing 0.138. These herbal quire measurements are the primary evidence for the conclusion in paragraph 56 that "there is very strong evidence that the Voynich was not meant to be nested and bound in quires at all." Without the herbal data, the singulion argument rests on only two quires.
This is in tension with the statement in paragraph 35: 'The results for the Herbal section suggested that each page is a distinct botanical topic (as also inferred from the illustrations, which change with each page).' If each herbal page is a distinct topic, that explains why facing pages are dissimilar — they depict different plants. But it equally predicts that conjoint pages should be dissimilar, since they also depict different plants.
Torsten > 15-07-2026, 07:14 PM
(15-07-2026, 06:17 PM)LisaFaginDavis Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.As we wrote, however, the data for the herbal section suggests that each herbal page is its own micro-topic.