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• More Henry the 5th information related to the VMS

  voynichrose > 13-03-2025, 01:29 AM

  Aside from this important information on the VMS.  This is me Stellar and I have been stable on medication from my bi-polar for 4 years now.  I wish the mods would forgive me and reinstate me back to Stellar.  I think my manic behavior got in the way of sensible conversation with the people here.  I have been on an injection of invega sustenna for 4 years now and my behavior is good.  Once again I am very sorry for anyone's feeling I hurt while having a manic episodes.  No manic behavior for 4 years now.
  
  
  
  Please don't delete this information as it may relate to the Voynich.
  
  Awhile back I put together how "Henry the 5th", could have been planned as part of the VMS.
  
  
  
  
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• RE: More Henry the 5th information related to the VMS

  voynichrose > 13-03-2025, 02:51 AM

  Katie directed me to this page.  I think you will interested.

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  Quote:ABSTRACT:
  
  The cultural significance of researching the House of Lancaster’s hidden military codes redefines how a small little country in the North could become a world Empire. In analyzing Yale MS 408 and understanding the cypher and who created it, it uncovers a lot of political dynamics within Europe during the Middle Ages. This study used cryptography of perceptual dialectology through etymology by analyzing the entire European Royal Families Blood line. The result was an astonishing uncrackable code still relevant to today’s standards used to hide Royal, Catholic and Templar Secrets. Yale MS 408 is the calling card of House Lancaster because of evidence found within the royal families signatures that are the only known symbols to match 100% in the manuscript.

• RE: More Henry the 5th information related to the VMS

  voynichrose > 13-03-2025, 03:09 AM

  This YouTube relates the VMS to Henry the 5th.
  
  

• RE: More Henry the 5th information related to the VMS

  voynichrose > 13-03-2025, 06:15 AM

  This just came out 2 years ago and was a study done on the voynich if it were gibberish.
  
  
  Gibberish after all? Voynichese is statistically similar to human produced samples of meaningless text Daniel E. Gaskell 1 and Claire L. Bowern 1 1 Yale University, PO Box 208236, New Haven, CT 06520, USA
  
  

  Quote:Abstract The text of the Voynich Manuscript (VMS) has often been regarded as too non-random to be meaningless. However, if the VMS is indeed a hoax, it was probably not produced by a purely random process but rather by some form of automatic writing or glyptolalia in which the scribe(s) simply invented meaningless text as they went based on an intuitive impression of what written language ought to look like. Here, we show that such intuitive “gibberish” is significantly non-random and in fact exhibits many of the same statistical peculiarities as Voynichese. We recruited 42 volunteers to write short “gibberish” documents and statistically compared them to several transcriptions of the VMS and a large corpus of linguistically meaningful texts. We find that “gibberish” writing varies widely in its statistical properties and, depending on the sample, is able to replicate either natural language or Voynichese across nearly all of the metrics which we tested, including traditional criteria for identifying natural language such as Zipf’s law. However, gibberish tends to exhibit lower total information content than meaningful text; higher repetition of words and characters, including triple repeats; greater biases in character placement within lines and word placement within sections; positive autocorrelation of word lengths (i.e., a tendency for words to cluster short-short-longlong rather than short-long-short-long); and a weaker average fit to Zipf’s law. The majority of these properties are also observed in Voynichese. A machine-learning model trained to distinguish meaningful text from gibberish in our dataset identified most VMS transcriptions as more closely resembling gibberish than meaningful text. We argue that these results refute the idea that the low-level linguistic structure of the VMS text is too non-random to be meaningless. However, our writing samples are too short to test whether the higher-level structure of VMS pages and quires could also be produced by gibberish.

• RE: More Henry the 5th information related to the VMS

  Dana Scott > 13-03-2025, 07:43 AM

  (13-03-2025, 06:15 AM)voynichrose Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.This just came out 2 years ago and was a study done on the voynich if it were gibberish.
  
  
  Gibberish after all? Voynichese is statistically similar to human produced samples of meaningless text Daniel E. Gaskell 1 and Claire L. Bowern 1 1 Yale University, PO Box 208236, New Haven, CT 06520, USA
  
  

  Quote:Abstract The text of the Voynich Manuscript (VMS) has often been regarded as too non-random to be meaningless. However, if the VMS is indeed a hoax, it was probably not produced by a purely random process but rather by some form of automatic writing or glyptolalia in which the scribe(s) simply invented meaningless text as they went based on an intuitive impression of what written language ought to look like. Here, we show that such intuitive “gibberish” is significantly non-random and in fact exhibits many of the same statistical peculiarities as Voynichese. We recruited 42 volunteers to write short “gibberish” documents and statistically compared them to several transcriptions of the VMS and a large corpus of linguistically meaningful texts. We find that “gibberish” writing varies widely in its statistical properties and, depending on the sample, is able to replicate either natural language or Voynichese across nearly all of the metrics which we tested, including traditional criteria for identifying natural language such as Zipf’s law. However, gibberish tends to exhibit lower total information content than meaningful text; higher repetition of words and characters, including triple repeats; greater biases in character placement within lines and word placement within sections; positive autocorrelation of word lengths (i.e., a tendency for words to cluster short-short-longlong rather than short-long-short-long); and a weaker average fit to Zipf’s law. The majority of these properties are also observed in Voynichese. A machine-learning model trained to distinguish meaningful text from gibberish in our dataset identified most VMS transcriptions as more closely resembling gibberish than meaningful text. We argue that these results refute the idea that the low-level linguistic structure of the VMS text is too non-random to be meaningless. However, our writing samples are too short to test whether the higher-level structure of VMS pages and quires could also be produced by gibberish.

  
  Where is the "proof" that the VMS is a "hoax/gibberish"?

• RE: More Henry the 5th information related to the VMS

  Koen G > 13-03-2025, 09:14 AM

  Fine, but please keep your theory/theories constrained to their own thread - that's the rule for everyone. I can't change your username but I changed your title (under the username).

• RE: More Henry the 5th information related to the VMS

  voynichrose > 13-03-2025, 09:46 AM

  (13-03-2025, 09:14 AM)Koen G Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.Fine, but please keep your theory/theories constrained to their own thread - that's the rule for everyone. I can't change your username but I changed your title (under the username).

  
  Ok sounds good 

• RE: More Henry the 5th information related to the VMS

  voynichrose > 01-04-2025, 09:18 AM

  The eight-pointed star, or octagram, appears in folio 67r2 of the Voynich Manuscript, a 15th-century document renowned for its undeciphered script and enigmatic illustrations. This symbol has been a significant motif across various cultures and belief systems, often embodying concepts such as balance, harmony, and cosmic order.You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.
  Cultural and Astrological Significance of the Eight-Pointed Star

  • Mesopotamian Civilization: The eight-pointed star, known as the Star of Ishtar, symbolized the goddess Ishtar, representing fertility, love, and war.
    

  
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  I have pointed out that f67r2 could actually represent The Battle of Agincourt.  The eight pointed star corresponds to war.
  
  
  
  
  Also chatgpt extracted this for Sagittarius in the first house:
  
  In medieval astrology, Sagittarius in the First House was often associated with war, conquest, and military leadership, especially if Mars or Jupiter was influential in the chart. Let's break this down:
  Sagittarius in the First House: The Warrior’s Ascendant
  

  1. Ruled by Jupiter – Sagittarius is ruled by Jupiter, a planet of expansion, fortune, and philosophy. In war astrology, this could indicate a leader who believes in divine justice or destiny.
     
  2. Fire Sign Influence – As a mutable fire sign, Sagittarius brings qualities of restlessness, strategic thinking, and adaptability, which are crucial in battle.
     
  3. Symbol of the Archer – The bow and arrow symbol of Sagittarius suggests a long-range attack, possibly archery-heavy battles, like Agincourt (1415), where English longbowmen were key to victory.
     
  4. Good Fortune in War – If Jupiter is well-aspected, it could mean victory in battle due to luck or divine intervention, aligning with medieval beliefs in fate and astrology.
     

  Sagittarius Rising in a War Chart

  • If Mars (planet of war) is placed in a strong position (such as Aries or Scorpio), Sagittarius rising could indicate an aggressive but tactically intelligent military campaign.
    
  • If Jupiter is weak or afflicted, it could signal overconfidence or miscalculations leading to defeat.
    
  • In medieval astrology, an army led by a Sagittarius-rising commander would be seen as bold, unpredictable, and blessed by fortune.
    

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• Breaking News find Battle of Agincourt

  voynichrose > 01-04-2025, 04:38 PM

  Folio 67r2 of The Voynich Manuscript:

  The Battle of Agincourt October 25 1415, 8am Gregorian

   

  Thomas E. O'Neil

   

   

   

   

  Here I will attempt to prove with four properties of astrology that folio 67r2 is the zodiac of the Battle of Agincourt.  The four properties I will use are masculine and feminine, planet alignments, zodiac signs, and waning moons from the date of the battle.  I believe that with these four properties inline, that from the imagery alone, this could be a rare case of proof for what one of the folios could be revealed.
  
  First, I will copy three zodiac photos into here and then make further explanations of what they represent.

   

   

   

   

   

   

   

   

             

• RE: Breaking News find Battle of Agincourt

  nablator > 01-04-2025, 07:23 PM

  "The planets just happen to align aswell. This is solid proof for imagery of Agincourt."
  
  Trying to understand... What do the planets align with?
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