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Text on the occiput and the right shoulder in Folio 86v?

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• Text on the occiput and the right shoulder in Folio 86v?

  Dobri > 15-01-2025, 12:03 AM

  At least three symbols seem to be written on the back side of the head (occiput) and the right shoulder of a person in Folio 86v.
  Has this been noticed and discussed before?

• RE: Text on the occiput and the right shoulder in Folio 86v?

  Dobri > 15-01-2025, 12:13 AM

  One could read it as 'sol' in a first approximation.

• RE: Text on the occiput and the right shoulder in Folio 86v?

  Dobri > 15-01-2025, 12:30 AM

  Here the text is enclosed in an orange rectangle for clarity.

• RE: Text on the occiput and the right shoulder in Folio 86v?

  Dobri > 15-01-2025, 12:40 AM

  Zoom out.

• RE: Text on the occiput and the right shoulder in Folio 86v?

  Dobri > 15-01-2025, 12:48 AM

  In addition to the text, note that the person is holding something in their left hand.

• RE: Text on the occiput and the right shoulder in Folio 86v?

  nablator > 15-01-2025, 11:06 AM

  It's not obvious to me that it is text...
  
  BTW, much higher resolution scans are available, there is no need to post pixel mush.
  
  2004 scan: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.

• RE: Text on the occiput and the right shoulder in Folio 86v?

  Koen G > 15-01-2025, 11:33 AM

  It might be an accidental and partial continuation of the background pattern (which I assume was made after the figures were drawn).

• RE: Text on the occiput and the right shoulder in Folio 86v?

  Dobri > 15-01-2025, 04:46 PM

  The question mark in the title of the thread indicates that it is unclear if this is text or something else.
  
  It could also be an attribute like a distinctive cap style.

• RE: Text on the occiput and the right shoulder in Folio 86v?

  RobGea > 15-01-2025, 07:09 PM

  Just download the required TIFF from Beinecke. (and guess what to include in your image )
  
     
  
  Left hand could be a root bag with plant.
  Possible headband, maybe even a blindfold.
  Possibly something woven into hair on right side  - because headband? seems to be beneath it.
  Right hand possibly an orb  ( but could be coincidental background placement ).
  Right hand index finger possibly a ring ( more likely a visual artifact ).
  Right hand pinky finger possibly a vertical line  ( but  more likely just coincidental background placement ).
  Position of figure : Facing away  - possible parallel with north and south figures in f57v.
  Dress: Baggy sleeves , narrow cuffs.
  Text: None.

• RE: Text on the occiput and the right shoulder in Folio 86v?

  Dobri > 16-01-2025, 06:29 PM

  I came to the realization that perhaps there is no text and the person is turning their head slightly to the right so that a part of the forehead, an eyebrow, the nose, and the right cheek are painted by the artist. The ear and the hair seem to be covered by a coif or another headwear but it is unclear what is painted over the temple.
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