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• Pisces (Folio 70v) and the New Year on the 1st of March in the Republic of Venice

  Dobri > 05-01-2025, 12:58 PM

  Folio 70v of the Voynich (cypher) manuscript contains the astrological depiction of Pisces (fishes).
  
  Said depiction is surrounded by an inner ring of 10 naked females reclining horizontally with the lower half of their bodies in cylindrical tubs.
  
  There is also an outer ring with 19 naked females standing vertically with the lower half of their bodies also in cylindrical tubs.
  
  All females are having multi-pointed stars on a string.
  
  Assuming that the manuscript originates from the Republic of Venice, one couldn't help but notice that the New Year in Venice in medieval times was on the 1st of March.
  
  Since 9 of the reclined females in the inner ring and their stars are oriented counterclockwise (except for one, oriented clockwise and sharing the same tub with another female but from the opposite side of the tub), one could possibly interpret the reclined females and their stars in the inner ring as the days in the first decan of Pisces at the end of February. The only reclined female oriented clockwise could possibly depict 29th of February in a leap year.
  Here the interpretation could be that the females are reclined to show that they represent past days from the previous month of February.
  
  The stars of all 19 females in the outer ring are oriented clockwise. Here the interpretation could be that the females are standing upright to show that they represent forthcoming days of the remaining 2 decans of Pisces with respect to the New Year in Venice on the 1st of March.
  
  The scheme looks like this:
  
  - first decan of Pisces in February (9 females reclining counterclockwise); 
  - a female reclining clockwise (29th of February in a leap year); and
  - forthcoming second and third decans of Pisces in March (19 standing-up females with stars oriented clockwise).
  
  Note that folio 70v seems to be the only astrological folio where females are oriented in opposite directions (clockwise or counterclockwise).

• RE: Pisces (Folio 70v) and the New Year on the 1st of March in the Republic of Venice

  bi3mw > 05-01-2025, 02:19 PM

  (05-01-2025, 12:58 PM)Dobri Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.Assuming that the manuscript originates from the Republic of Venice, one couldn't help but notice that the New Year in Venice in medieval times was on the 1st of March.

  
  That would at least explain why the zodiac signs in the VMS begin with Pisces.
  
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  Quote:In spite of most of western Europe gradually opting for January 1st or December 25th for the celebration of the new year, in Venice the state obstinately stuck with March 1st.
  
  The tradition never changed until the fall of the Republic in April 1797.

• RE: Pisces (Folio 70v) and the New Year on the 1st of March in the Republic of Venice

  R. Sale > 05-01-2025, 07:05 PM

  Interesting possibilities - with one little quibble. Not "assuming the manuscript originates in Venice" BUT assuming the information shown in this part of the manuscript is indicative of Venice.

• RE: Pisces (Folio 70v) and the New Year on the 1st of March in the Republic of Venice

  Dobri > 04-05-2025, 06:13 PM

  Here is the central part of a miniature from the Hellenistic period depicting 12 naked figures: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view..
  
     

• RE: Pisces (Folio 70v) and the New Year on the 1st of March in the Republic of Venice

  Dobri > 04-05-2025, 09:58 PM

  In this paper You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view. from the 15th century, every astrological sign lasts 30 days.
  
  Note that Pisces is written as Piscibus (dative plural form) and 'ci' resembles the bench. 
  
  

• RE: Pisces (Folio 70v) and the New Year on the 1st of March in the Republic of Venice

  Dobri > 05-05-2025, 09:36 AM

  In this You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view. from the mid-15th century, every month has 30 days.
  
  Almanacs contained astro-medical information which was used by the medical practitioners.
  

• RE: Pisces (Folio 70v) and the New Year on the 1st of March in the Republic of Venice

  Dobri > 05-05-2025, 01:15 PM

  Since some zodiacal folios have 29 nymphs instead of 30, it seems that the zodiacal section of the cipher manuscript depicts some kind of a lunar calendar yet to be identified.

• RE: Pisces (Folio 70v) and the New Year on the 1st of March in the Republic of Venice

  anyasophira > 06-05-2025, 03:02 AM

  (04-05-2025, 06:13 PM)Dobri Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.Here is the central part of a miniature from the Hellenistic period depicting 12 naked figures: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view..

  I wonder what the significance of the arms are why are some up and some down?

• RE: Pisces (Folio 70v) and the New Year on the 1st of March in the Republic of Venice

  Koen G > 06-05-2025, 06:58 AM

  This diagram has long been known to Voynich research. Everything we know so far is probably here: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.

• RE: Pisces (Folio 70v) and the New Year on the 1st of March in the Republic of Venice

  Dobri > 06-05-2025, 06:16 PM

  (06-05-2025, 03:02 AM)anyasophira Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.

  (04-05-2025, 06:13 PM)Dobri Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.Here is the central part of a miniature from the Hellenistic period depicting 12 naked figures: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view..

  I wonder what the significance of the arms are why are some up and some down?

  The naked figures raise their right hand or both hands except the naked figure at Scorpio rising their left hand (a possible association with the underworld).
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