Koen G > 21-12-2016, 09:36 PM
bunny > 22-12-2016, 12:51 AM
(21-12-2016, 09:36 PM)Koen Gh. Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.Bunny, this thread is from many theories ago...
(22-12-2016, 12:51 AM)bunny Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.(21-12-2016, 09:36 PM)Koen Gh. Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.Bunny, this thread is from many theories ago...
I'm not sure what that reply means. Is the theory disputed, ignored, given up on?
Anyway, I am mostly finished translating Stellar's script as shown below:
"uounen
uoe-- et uoiia men u cuoiien et en uo-- en oiuse-- uoiiu -uia uoiiud uoiud e-- sg-a uoun sena uoiuen sen e-nsa"
It is astronomical and factual. Not quite finished but tomorrow maybe. The only thing I can come up with for this is that Stellar may be joking with us, it is too accurate not to be a hoax. If Stella insists he is honest with his results then why is no one listening to him? All I see are put downs and jibes. I am sorry to go on about this but the words he presents are accurate, correct and factual but like he just misses out the final step in translation. I really am not joking about this but it just seems to get lost in the background.
Bunny
ThomasCoon > 22-12-2016, 03:07 AM
Quote:It is astronomical and factual. Not quite finished but tomorrow maybe. The only thing I can come up with for this is that Stellar may be joking with us, it is too accurate not to be a hoax. If Stellar insists he is honest with his results then why is no one listening to him? All I see are put downs and jibes. I am sorry to go on about this but the words he presents are accurate, correct and factual but like he just misses out the final step in translation. I really am not joking about this but it just seems to get lost in the background.
bunny > 22-12-2016, 09:06 PM
(22-12-2016, 03:07 AM)ThomasCoon Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.Quote:It is astronomical and factual. Not quite finished but tomorrow maybe. The only thing I can come up with for this is that Stellar may be joking with us, it is too accurate not to be a hoax. If Stellar insists he is honest with his results then why is no one listening to him? All I see are put downs and jibes. I am sorry to go on about this but the words he presents are accurate, correct and factual but like he just misses out the final step in translation. I really am not joking about this but it just seems to get lost in the background.
Very respectfully the language that stellar claims to have decoded is not Latin. I have a college degree in Classics (heavy in Latin) and 9 years of translating Latin, and the language is simply not Latin or any dialect / language related to Latin.
-JKP- > 22-12-2016, 10:37 PM
(22-12-2016, 09:06 PM)bunny Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.Respectfully in return his work is of interest to me and my own particular view for very specific reasons. Given the premise I have that the text/glyphs are representative of more than one language, the essence of what is meant rather than conjugated endings and full sentences, the stem and few words can carry information. I do agree with you that "read a book" Latin is not there but it doesn't stop the essence being readable in the oubliette. What Stellar produces by all his various means has meaning to me, not something I can pretend otherwise, being in essence information - in which correct grammar does not need to play a role. As you are a Latin expert I don't think this approach would be of interest to you, and I'm sure many are working on a standard Latin approach to the text, with a unique back workable 1:1 solution. This research is however not my area. His work is also reflective of results of others, though again I stress the language used or method or how ungrammatical it may be does not detract from the results I have seen others produce of the same thread.
I'm guessing it's still as clear as mud on where I'm going for the moment. I will get to that in due course.
Bunny
bunny > 22-12-2016, 11:23 PM
(22-12-2016, 10:37 PM)-JKP- Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.(22-12-2016, 09:06 PM)bunny Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.His work is also reflective of results of others, though again I stress the language used or method or how ungrammatical it may be does not detract from the results I have seen others produce of the same thread.
I'm guessing it's still as clear as mud on where I'm going for the moment. I will get to that in due course.
Bunny
Bunny, I'm curious. Do any of these "results of others" that seem to you to have validity include translations of manuscript pages without images?
ThomasCoon > 23-12-2016, 02:52 AM
(22-12-2016, 09:06 PM)bunny Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.Respectfully in return his work is of interest to me and my own particular view for very specific reasons. Given the premise I have that the text/glyphs are representative of more than one language, the essence of what is meant rather than conjugated endings and full sentences, the stem and few words can carry information. I do agree with you that "read a book" Latin is not there but it doesn't stop the essence being readable in the oubliette. What Stellar produces by all his various means has meaning to me, not something I can pretend otherwise, being in essence information - in which correct grammar does not need to play a role. As you are a Latin expert I don't think this approach would be of interest to you, and I'm sure many are working on a standard Latin approach to the text, with a unique back workable 1:1 solution. This research is however not my area. His work is also reflective of results of others, though again I stress the language used or method or how ungrammatical it may be does not detract from the results I have seen others produce of the same thread.
I'm guessing it's still as clear as mud on where I'm going for the moment. I will get to that in due course.
Bunny
bunny > 23-12-2016, 09:57 AM
(23-12-2016, 02:52 AM)ThomasCoon Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.[quote pid='10135' dateline='1482437208']
Hey Bunny,
It is a great idea that the VMS shows more than one language. That may very well be the case. The only problem I have is with the segment I bolded - the words given are unfortunately very very far from Latin. If they were supposed to be Latin, I honestly do not know what they were intended to be. I will mark the words in red which are not Latin words (either grammatical or ungrammatical):
uoe-- et uoiia men u cuoiien et en uo-- en oiuse-- uoiiu -uia uoiiud uoiud e-- sg-a uoun sena uoiuen sen e-nsa"
Koen G > 23-12-2016, 10:39 AM
-JKP- > 23-12-2016, 12:19 PM
(23-12-2016, 09:57 AM)bunny Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.(23-12-2016, 02:52 AM)ThomasCoon Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.[quote pid='10135' dateline='1482437208']
Hey Bunny,
It is a great idea that the VMS shows more than one language. That may very well be the case. The only problem I have is with the segment I bolded - the words given are unfortunately very very far from Latin. If they were supposed to be Latin, I honestly do not know what they were intended to be. I will mark the words in red which are not Latin words (either grammatical or ungrammatical):
uoe-- et uoiia men u cuoiien et en uo-- en oiuse-- uoiiu -uia uoiiud uoiud e-- sg-a uoun sena uoiuen sen e-nsa"