LisaFaginDavis > 01-02-2024, 04:48 PM
R. Sale > 01-02-2024, 09:50 PM
Torsten > 12-03-2024, 01:06 PM
Quote:As with writing in any familiar language, the separate sections of the Voynich Manuscript show a certain clustering of words according to their topics: There are words in the manuscript that only appear in the botanical section or the pharmaceutical section of the manuscript or so on, Bowern said to Knowable Magazine in 2021, making the text look a lot like meaningful language.
Antonio García Jiménez > 12-03-2024, 04:27 PM
R. Sale > 12-03-2024, 06:27 PM
Aga Tentakulus > 12-03-2024, 07:47 PM
Torsten > 12-03-2024, 08:32 PM
(12-03-2024, 06:27 PM)R. Sale Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.It seems only logical to me, if we are dealing with an herbal (or pseudo-herbal), the text would ostensibly consider the medical properties of plants. For the various plants there are different parts that are used, for example, the roots. When the roots are relevant, they are mentioned; and when not, they are ignored.
Hermes777 > 12-03-2024, 09:59 PM
ReneZ > 13-03-2024, 01:29 AM
(12-03-2024, 01:06 PM)Torsten Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.The article contains several mistakes. The most problematic statement is the following one:
Quote:As with writing in any familiar language, the separate sections of the Voynich Manuscript show a certain clustering of words according to their topics: There are words in the manuscript that only appear in the botanical section or the pharmaceutical section of the manuscript or so on, Bowern said to Knowable Magazine in 2021, making the text look a lot like meaningful language.
It is unfortunate that incorrect statements about the Voynich manuscript like that by Claire Bowern are spread out. Bowerns statement obviously refers to the well known observation that certain glyph combinations occur more frequently in certain sections. For instance EVA-edy is more common in Currier B than in Currier A. However, this does not imply that words are systematically organized around topics. On the contrary, a word dominating one page may be rare or absent on the next. Furthermore, if a word is common in one section, it always can also be found in other sections.
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Quote:For instance EVA-edy is more common in Currier B than in Currier A. However, this does not imply that words are systematically organized around topics. On the contrary, a word dominating one page may be rare or absent on the next. Furthermore, if a word is common in one section, it always can also be found in other sections.
Quote:As with writing in any familiar language, the separate sections of the Voynich Manuscript show a certain clustering of words according to their topics: There are words in the manuscript that only appear in the botanical section or the pharmaceutical section of the manuscript or so on, Bowern said to Knowable Magazine in 2021, making the text look a lot like meaningful language.
Quote:making the text look a lot like meaningful language.
Torsten > 13-03-2024, 09:20 AM
(13-03-2024, 01:29 AM)ReneZ Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.For me, both are correct.
(13-03-2024, 01:29 AM)ReneZ Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.The latter was already argued in the paper by Montemurro and Zanette. Now while their argument is not proof of meaning, the article also does not say that. Instead,Actually, the article even states: "But beyond the word level — at the level of large sections of text — Voynichese is, in fact, similar to familiar languages." Anyway, if there is no clustering around topics, then the assertion that clustering around topics indicates similarity is obviously incorrect.Quote:making the text look a lot like meaningful language.
is a completely defendable statement.