Morten St. George > 20-01-2018, 08:37 PM
davidjackson > 21-01-2018, 07:31 AM
bi3mw > 21-01-2018, 05:27 PM
(03-07-2016, 12:53 PM)ReneZ Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.....
I haven't seen a lot of details about the method online, but from what I understood it is quite coarse, and for anything more specific one would have to do DNA analysis. ....
Quote:You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view. , Comprehensive Reviews in Food Science and Food Safety, Volume 15, Issue 5, Page 7
Stable Isotope Ratio Analysis for Assessing the Authenticity of Food of Animal Origin
Federica Camin, Luana Bontempo, Matteo Perini, and Edi Piasentier
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Geographical, climatic, pedological, geological, botanical, and agricultural factors affect the stable isotope ratios of bioelements in nature, and isotopic variations are ultimately incorporated into animal tissue throughout eating, drinking, breathing, and exchange with the environment, being memorized in the resulting foods. As a consequence, the stable isotope ratios analysis of H, C, N, O, and S has shown high potential for determining geographical origin, animal diet, and the production system ( organic / conventional ) for pork, beef, poultry, milk, butter, cheese, fish, and shellfish.
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Morten St. George > 22-01-2018, 04:33 AM
(21-01-2018, 07:31 AM)davidjackson Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.Hi Morten!
I assume you mean the animal on the back page? Not the Venezuelan marsh deer? (Which is.... A deer!)
I think many people assume it's a goat. Anton has remarked upon the link between the two images and the text here:
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Am extensive discussion upon the text is also available, search for 116v to see the threads.
davidjackson > 22-01-2018, 06:27 PM
Quote:Does anyone know if they randomly selected the pages to test upon arrival at the library, or were the pages pre-selected by the Beineke Library?
Quote: BTW, I really like my nickname Discipulus! Thanks. I might use it elsewhere.
ReneZ > 22-01-2018, 07:17 PM
(22-01-2018, 04:33 AM)Morten St. George Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.Does anyone know if they randomly selected the pages to test upon arrival at the library, or were the pages pre-selected by the Beineke Library?
Morten St. George > 22-01-2018, 10:46 PM
(22-01-2018, 07:17 PM)ReneZ Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.(22-01-2018, 04:33 AM)Morten St. George Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.Does anyone know if they randomly selected the pages to test upon arrival at the library, or were the pages pre-selected by the Beineke Library?
The samples were taken by a conservator in Yale (Paula Zyats), and sent to York for analysis.
Selection was done based on recommendations from various people with a final decision by someone in Yale.
My interaction was with Paula Zyats, but the coordination of the various forensic tests was with Aniko Bezur of Yale.
Note that Yale University has several libraries, so certain services (like conservation) are not with the Beinecke, but with Yale, serving all libraries.
davidjackson > 22-01-2018, 11:04 PM
Quote: Does this mean that we are counting on the honesty and integrity of the Skull and Bones Society, which, according to Wikipedia, "plays a role in a global conspiracy for world control"?I'm not sure what you mean by that, but I'm sure you aren't casting aspersions upon the Beinecke library or Dr Zyats.
Morten St. George > 23-01-2018, 08:30 PM
(22-01-2018, 11:04 PM)davidjackson Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.Quote: Does this mean that we are counting on the honesty and integrity of the Skull and Bones Society, which, according to Wikipedia, "plays a role in a global conspiracy for world control"?I'm not sure what you mean by that, but I'm sure you aren't casting aspersions upon the Beinecke library or Dr Zyats.
MarcoP > 23-01-2018, 09:45 PM
(23-01-2018, 08:30 PM)Morten St. George Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.(22-01-2018, 11:04 PM)davidjackson Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.Quote: Does this mean that we are counting on the honesty and integrity of the Skull and Bones Society, which, according to Wikipedia, "plays a role in a global conspiracy for world control"?I'm not sure what you mean by that, but I'm sure you aren't casting aspersions upon the Beinecke library or Dr Zyats.
I went back and added the smiley that I forgot to do when I pasted it in.
But, yes, for the moment I am rejecting the conclusion that the Voynich parchment comes from cow. Apparently, the bioarchaeologists never had sight of the Voynich manuscirpt, so their findings lack scientific rigor.