Ruby Novacna > 04-05-2022, 03:01 PM
MarcoP > 07-05-2022, 11:39 AM
cvetkakocj@rogers.com > 07-05-2022, 03:12 PM
(07-05-2022, 11:39 AM)MarcoP Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.I am not a palaeographer, but I like Latin and I sometimes enjoy working my way through medieval manuscripts written in Latin or Italian. In my experience, grammar is vital to understanding any written text, even more so when punctuation is absent or very limited. I find it difficult to imagine any simple measure that could tell us "to what extent" a text respects a grammar. The closest I can think of would be some kind of comparison of the frequencies of the most frequent words. As discussed You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view., languages have a closed set of function words typically including at least half of the 10 most frequent words in any reasonably long text. A few years ago, You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view. that checking how the most frequent Voynichese words are interpreted by a proposed solution is an effective way to evaluate a theory: in my opinion, this test is the simplest possible way to see if a solution has any hope of making sense grammatically.Hi, Marko,
A more sophisticated approach could include looking for specific patterns: e.g. since in English plurals typically end with -s, one can expect "-s are" ("when the thousand years are expired", "the seven heads are seven mountains", "the former things are passed away") to be more frequent than "-s is" (even if 'is' is normally more frequent than 'are'). But of course defining such patterns is much more difficult than counting word frequencies. Anyway, all languages have patterns and Voynichese also shows patterns in how words are arranged: if Voynichese represents linguistic content, at least some of its patterns are probably related to the grammar of the underlying language.
MichelleL11 > 07-05-2022, 05:59 PM
(07-05-2022, 11:39 AM)MarcoP Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.The closest I can think of would be some kind of comparison of the frequencies of the most frequent words. As discussed You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view., languages have a closed set of function words typically including at least half of the 10 most frequent words in any reasonably long text. A few years ago, You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view. that checking how the most frequent Voynichese words are interpreted by a proposed solution is an effective way to evaluate a theory: in my opinion, this test is the simplest possible way to see if a solution has any hope of making sense grammatically.
Ruby Novacna > 07-05-2022, 07:14 PM
(07-05-2022, 11:39 AM)MarcoP Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view....grammar is vital to understanding any written text, even more so when punctuation is absent or very limitedThank you, Marco, I hope that our author has respected the grammar in his manuscript and that we will succeed in discovering it.
Ruby Novacna > 07-05-2022, 07:34 PM
MarcoP > 07-05-2022, 07:35 PM
(07-05-2022, 05:59 PM)MichelleL11 Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.all is not rosy in word pattern land
Ruby Novacna > 12-05-2022, 01:10 PM
(07-05-2022, 11:39 AM)MarcoP Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view....languages have a closed set of function words typically including at least half of the 10 most frequent words in any reasonably long textMarco, unfortunately I do not have a list of words in the manuscript by frequency.
Ruby Novacna > 24-06-2022, 06:39 AM
tavie > 24-06-2022, 05:33 PM