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Examples of connected dots?
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RE: Examples of connected dots?
Antonio García Jiménez > 19-01-2026, 07:54 PM
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RE: Examples of connected dots?
Barbrey > 3 hours ago
I’m going through some old threads and I’m so glad I found this one. I provisionally marked down that sideways V as Pisces because that’s what Pisces looks like with the naked eye. The two star clusters at the end of each line and the “knot of heaven” at the juncture. But googling got me nowhere because it just stated that these line drawings of constellations didn’t become popular till the 17th century. Before that it would be dots or the actual stars only.
And here they are! Thanks to everyone who posted these images!
So I am writing an essay on Joachim de Fiore’s 3 Ages. I knew a tiny bit about him because Rupescissa and all the Franciscan alchemists seemed to have read him.
The essay is as a result of this little figure. I had symbolically interpreted all the marginal figures in the rosettes page and the signification network all made sense except for this sign. It should have been Aion or Eternity to fit with the other marginalia as framework. I knew that the VMS author never shows the face of god (or any gods) but uses ars negativa extensively as a symbolic mechanism. But this symbol, the ring and V made no sense to me as Aion is usually shown as a young god in a zodiac circle. The 3-stroke and 8 spaces made no sense, and what was the V?
And then I thought: possibly the Ages? Because Aion doesn’t really mean eternity but something like eternal ages, eternity with epochs.
You know the silhouette of the rosettes page on 57v? There is a human looking character exactly outside each of its four corners, just like the the margin figures on the rosettes are outside the cosmos grid proper. And they matched exactly to my interpretations on the rosettes.
Except Aion, once again. That figure was female, but likely Aeternitas the Romanized female Aion, but other than that it was just a woman pointing counter clockwise. Where else had I seen a definite and unmistakable counterclockwise movement?
In Pisces of course. The nymphs of its inner ring swam counterclockwise. The little sign that looked like Pisces and the counterclockwise movement in Pisces. Moreover I knew I was dealing with Ages and Fiore theorized three of them. The Ages run counterclockwise. 8 Ages would probably be Bede’s variation on the traditional 6 if it pertained to that at all. But I haven’t really looked at the 8.
So I turned to Pisces and all its peculiarities as well as why Aries and Taurus are split suddenly came into focus. I know nothing about astrology or I might have looked at this page sooner.
At any rate, I hope you’ll read my essay when I publish it. It’s one of 3. One is on the nymph as a relational sign or “shifter”. Prima materia. The other is on the whole rosette cosmology but that opens up into so much philosophy - natural, biblical and alchemical - I don’t think I’ll ever finish it. But the third will be much shorter - this one. Not only does it explain Pisces but other anomalous signs across the manuscript, in what I call distributed signification.
And it’s heretical. Very much so. Aside from the usual alchemical secrecy inherent to the craft, the VMS is triple layered in symbol sets to hide it. And I am going to assert that this is why.
I was convinced the writer was just malicious. I remain at least partly convinced! But there is method in this madness.
