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RE: 15thc perception on swallowtail merlons?

Koen G > 27-12-2024, 02:08 PM

Added! This would have been our northernmost example if you hadn't added Untermontani before

It's remarkable how often the merlons are simply embedded in consecutive building layers. I think there are about 4 layers here: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.

Probably it's just a matter of convenience, since the merons are already quite tall so that's a lot of bricks you don't need to place anymore.

RE: 15thc perception on swallowtail merlons?

Koen G > 27-12-2024, 09:03 PM

Peter, do you know of this one? You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view. 
It mentions Swallowtail merlons in the description, but I can't find much about who put them there.

RE: 15thc perception on swallowtail merlons?

Dana Scott > 27-12-2024, 11:09 PM

RE: 15thc perception on swallowtail merlons?

Aga Tentakulus > 28-12-2024, 08:58 AM

           

Interesting find. I took my time with it.
Based on the drawings, it has none. But the model does.
The castle gate is dated to the early 16th century. I think the battlements are therefore from around 1530-1540.
In any case, they are earlier than normal (north of the Alps) which is around 1560.

Link for pictures

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RE: 15thc perception on swallowtail merlons?

Koen G > 28-12-2024, 09:20 AM

RE: 15thc perception on swallowtail merlons?

Aga Tentakulus > 28-12-2024, 10:07 AM

   

Another problem is that there are actually 2 castles. The west castle is 100-150 years older than the east castle, and there were also 2 different families.

That doesn't exactly make research any easier, and what documents survived the Second World War.

RE: 15thc perception on swallowtail merlons?

Koen G > 01-01-2025, 07:05 PM

Found a new MS:

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[Livro de la Menscalcia de li cavalli]
Italy, perhaps in Apulia, early 15th century
MS M.735 fol. 76r

RE: 15thc perception on swallowtail merlons?

Koen G > 02-01-2025, 08:57 PM

Here's a pope in front of swallowtail merlons. The MS is apparently quite partisan and the imagery complex.



See library catalogue for some explanation: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.
(I still don't get why the swallowtails are there). 

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RE: 15thc perception on swallowtail merlons?

Bernd > 24-01-2025, 01:25 AM

Just because I've just been there - both the Visconti bridge and the Scaliger castle at Valeggio sul Mincio near Verona have swallowtail merlons
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I would assume these are original. The merlons are hard to see at the bridge today but they were apparent from the inside of one of the bridge towers. Unfortunately I accidentally deleted the photo I made when I was there.



I would also suspect that most of the other Scaliger buildings mentioned here had swallowtail merlons
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RE: 15thc perception on swallowtail merlons?

Scarecrow > 24-01-2025, 07:17 AM

I'm not sure if this has been already included, and I have no ideaa (yet) from where it is from, but more than that I find it interesting that they look like the first weirdos in the f1r.