Pythagoras > 06-07-2021, 12:01 PM
davidjackson > 06-07-2021, 05:37 PM
R. Sale > 06-07-2021, 10:54 PM
Pythagoras > 07-07-2021, 08:07 AM
(06-07-2021, 05:37 PM)davidjackson Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.Either way, such arguments tends to concentrate on the impenetrability of the text.
Pythagoras > 07-07-2021, 08:26 AM
(06-07-2021, 10:54 PM)R. Sale Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.And that's the problem, isn't it? The text remains impenetrable. Sure we've got a lot of capable, in-depth analyses, but still no one can read it <to the satisfaction of a majority of investigators, shall we say>. So it's impenetrable: No text, but a visual code. And why just a single code? Why not run the full gamut. Not just alchemy, not just astrology, but include mythology and religion, history and tradition. And that includes heraldry. If anyone thinks that heraldry was not significant in European culture well over the times highlighted by the VMs parchment, C-14 dates, then they may not be fully aware of the knightly culture of that era.
There are a number of potential codes in the VMs. They can be substantiated by the degree with which they accord with actual history, traditions, beliefs, etc. However, when that information has been long lost in the dust bin of history, then there is another problem. And that is not the half of it! Because the creator of the VMs is intimately familiar with their perspective of the <C-14> current social media, as are their educated contemporaries, the creator has chosen not to visually expound on certain images, but rather to deploy them more subtly.
This is what is found in the investigation of the VMs cosmos. The visual code is based on structure. Structure is the underlying reality. Differences of appearance are an intentional disguise.
The cosmic structure in three parts: earth, stars, cosmic boundary, is unusual.
BNF Fr. 565, Harley 334 and the VMs. The first two were produced in Paris within the C-14 dates.
One of the significant, visual differences can be seen in the appearance of the cosmic boundary. The cloud band in the Oresme text (BNF) has an elaborate scallop-shell pattern. The later de Metz text has only a plain line with no other detail. The VMs used a line best defined as nebuly, according to heraldic terminology. And the very etymology of the word demonstrates its cloud-based derivation. The occurrence of 43 visually present undulations hints of stronger connections with the Oresme illustration.
The fact that there are bulbous undulations, that the cosmic boundary is cloud-base, that it is represented with the color blue, rather than pink or some other alternative, all help to tighten the connection. Investigations here have shown that there is a great diversity of cloud-band patterns. There are even cosmic boundaries based on fire, instead of clouds.
Provenance indicates the Oresme text was made c. 1410 in Paris, for Jean, Duc de Berry, (d. 1416, Paris). Another surviving text that this Valois duke owned was the Berry Apocalypse. Some of the images from this text have a cosmic boundary in the illustration and that cosmic boundary is composed of a simple nebuly line. Cosmic boundaries of this simplicity are quite rare outside this text. There are so many different variations.
So there we have two texts, ostensibly both in the Berry library at the same time. And in the VMs there are the two elements, the Oresme Cosmos, with the visually altered and greatly simplified cosmic boundary. Yet a boundary is a boundary is a boundary. Structurally equivalent but visually diverse. Just like the VMs versions of the earth and the stars.
Someone might have seen these two texts when they were together in the Berry library. Someone might have seen these two extant texts, now held in their modern collections. Then they would have to put the parts together. Imagine WMV when Newbold called the VMs cosmos Andromeda. He (WMV) would have known the source, if he had been the forger. Perhaps he might have called the VMs a precursor to Oresme.
The VMs creator knew the historical background that provides the hidden content in the illustrations. The VMs creator challenges the reader to recover the historical reality behind the disguised representations.
R. Sale > 07-07-2021, 11:14 PM
Koen G > 08-07-2021, 12:20 AM
Aga Tentakulus > 08-07-2021, 12:30 AM
Pythagoras > 08-07-2021, 07:40 AM
(08-07-2021, 12:20 AM)Koen G Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.Why are you looking for proof of something you don't believe? It's a bit like asking: I know the earth isn't flat, but what are some indications that it is?