Koen G > 12-04-2021, 01:06 PM
geoffreycaveney > 12-04-2021, 01:49 PM
ReneZ > 12-04-2021, 02:28 PM
Mark Knowles > 12-04-2021, 02:57 PM
(12-04-2021, 01:06 PM)Koen G Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.This alone would be quite the feat, and I don't think it is possible.
Therefore I believe it is impossible to translate a paragraph in a viable way. At least using the many methods that have been revealed to us so far
MarcoP > 12-04-2021, 03:34 PM
(12-04-2021, 01:06 PM)Koen G Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.I was just thinking that it would require a great amount of creativity to convert any paragraph of Voynichese into something (anything) that makes sense using any repeatable method. This alone would be quite the feat, and I don't think it is possible.
(12-04-2021, 01:06 PM)Koen G Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.For the method to be repeatable, it should be possible to express it as a set of rules for someone else to reach the same results. This means, and this is the most important condition, that the method may not include an "interpretative step" which basically turns it into a one-way cipher.
geoffreycaveney > 12-04-2021, 03:44 PM
Koen G > 12-04-2021, 04:36 PM
Mark Knowles > 12-04-2021, 04:53 PM
geoffreycaveney > 12-04-2021, 05:26 PM
(12-04-2021, 04:36 PM)Koen G Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.Marco: I even forgot to mention the gramaticallity of the output. But I wonder if, as a challenge of sorts, if it would be possible to produce a long word-salad without using an interpretative step.
I fear that even this might be very difficult.
Mark Knowles > 12-04-2021, 05:41 PM
(12-04-2021, 03:44 PM)geoffreycaveney Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.why then did this process apparently decrease the entropy of the resulting cipher text rather than increase it?I don't believe that there is any fundamental law that an encryption technique must increase entropy. It is perfectly possible for a cipher to decrease entropy.