RE: Thread for random remarks and questions about Voynich images
R. Sale > 29-01-2021, 08:35 PM
Yes, indeed, that is a rather similar image over all [Posts #19 & #20). However there are some general and particular considerations. What is the provenance for this Losbuch, if that is the proper term? German 14xx, is that all we've got? What is the nature of the text that accompanies this illustration? Judging from the illustrations on fol. 642, the influence would be Christian, and the representation could be Jonah.
The significant difference, eliminated by the closeup representations, is the presence or absence of the companion creatures. The presence of companion creatures determines that the depiction belongs to the "Mermaid and her friends" category in the likes of Lauber and Harley 334, rather than being in the "Jonah" category. Conversely the absence of companions points to the "Jonah" category.
More specifically, while the fish's teeth are carefully detailed, the figure itself, the human part, lacks a clear sign of gender identity. The VMs appears to present another nymph.
Despite a variety of potential connections to various French influences from historical sources, there is certainly no reason to deny German possibilities. One need look no rather than the women who were the wives of the dukes of Burgundy. The Valois line originated with Bonne of Luxembourg. The first duke, Philip the Bold, married Margaret of Flanders. The second duke, John the Fearless, married Margaret of Bavaria. If that's not a German influence, what is? The third duke, Philip the Good, brings the chronology to the mid 1430s.
In evaluating these examples, there is a question of connection. What is the connection? How close was the connection? Was it necessary for the VMs artist to actually see the particular illustration? Would it have been possible, over a portion of a life-time for a single person to have had all these contacts? Is the VMs some sort of individual commentary on Social Media of 1435? [With all the traditional suitcases full of history?] What sort of perspective does that involve? Obviously it still fits within the C-14 of the single source calculation, with lots more space in a dual source recalculation. A later source in the C-14 calculation opens more of the mid-1400s and still retains the combination of C-14 dating with the multiple , historical references tied by provenance to the same span of years.
Also, check the birdie on the fol. 642 - upper right.
Discussion of the Losbuch illustration belongs in one of the Mermaid / Melusine threads, it will get lost here.