ReneZ > 25-09-2020, 12:08 PM
(25-09-2020, 08:15 AM)Mark Knowles Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.What about a manuscript where the same label can be found on different pages with quite different images?
What about a manuscript where the repeated labels have very similar spellings from one to the other?
And what about a manuscript that has all the properties of labels combined that we have discussed?
ReneZ > 25-09-2020, 12:29 PM
Ruby Novacna > 25-09-2020, 01:15 PM
(24-09-2020, 12:15 AM)Voynichgibberish Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.I have run dozens of frequency analysis on several languages and compared it to the Voynich Manuscript ... I even compared it to classical and modern ciphers ...Under which name did you publish your results, please?
MichelleL11 > 25-09-2020, 02:15 PM
ReneZ > 25-09-2020, 02:19 PM
(25-09-2020, 12:29 PM)ReneZ Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.In the paper by Andreas Schinner of 2007, the anomalous random walk behaviour could tentatively be explained by 'something unexpected happening' at each line transition, i.e. another manifestation of Currier's "LAAFU", but this is very far from clear. It is also beyond my state of knowledge of such processes.
MichelleL11 > 25-09-2020, 02:34 PM
geoffreycaveney > 25-09-2020, 07:11 PM
(25-09-2020, 12:44 AM)-JKP- Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.I've posted examples of labels that have been distilled down to three characters.
I've posted examples of labels that have been broken into small pieces that cross across illustrations.
I've posted examples on my blog of hot/cold wet/dry distilled down to 2 characters.
And way back somewhere on the forum I posted a link to a manuscript that has all the good days bad days info.
I've also made numerous references to Llullian-style diagrams where there are cryptic-seeming short labels (they are mnemonics), but if you know what the diagram is about, you can interpret them.
I've also made references to Greek labels that consist of two characters throughout the book.
I've posted examples on my blog of cryptic-looking but very logical two- and three-character indexing systems.
geoffreycaveney > 25-09-2020, 07:29 PM
MarcoP > 25-09-2020, 07:48 PM
(25-09-2020, 02:19 PM)ReneZ Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.To be a bit more specific about this, when using Eva, the average line length is (approx) 160,000 / 5700 = 28 characters. This point can be indicated in the graph from Schinner, as follows (blue lines):
(25-09-2020, 02:34 PM)MichelleL11 Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.Would there be a similar internal structure that could be paralleled for the Bible in English? I know there are discussions of its repetitiveness. But why would that be special for English compared with translations of the same text in other languages?
(25-09-2020, 02:15 PM)MichelleL11 Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.Since your results are comparable to each other (internally consistent, unlike Schinner’s which found the VMS to be an outlier) yet not completely comparable to Schinner’s results as a whole - do you think variations in method of preparation between data sets could be the explanation for all of it?
Kokol et al Wrote:Each character is then transformed into a six bit long binary representation according to a fixed code table. It has been shown by Schenkel (Schenkel 1993) that the selection of the code table does not influence the results as long as all possible codes (i.e. we have 64 different codes for the six bit representation – in our case we assigned 56 codes for the letters and the remaining codes for special symbols like period, comma, mathematical operators, etc) are used.
Schinner Wrote:As a first step it is necessary to encode the characters of the texts under investigation to bit sequences. It has been shown that the actual definition of this code table has negligible influence on the interesting quantities, as long as all (or at least almost all) possible bit patterns are used
(25-09-2020, 02:15 PM)MichelleL11 Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.I agree with you that the switch to fiction prose for English rather than sticking with the Bible feels like cherry picking.
ReneZ > 25-09-2020, 08:08 PM