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• RE: Alchemical Symbolism in the VMS

  Koen G > 25-09-2025, 05:11 PM

  (25-09-2025, 04:35 PM)Barbrey Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.Correct me if I’m wrong, doesn’t that suggest that there is a connection between Scribe B and the painter who ran out of red?

  
  Not necessarily - you'd be surprised at the hypotheticals people can come up with
  
  There would be a connection, for example, in the following order of events:
  
  

  1. images penned
     
  2. images painted, red paint sparse
     
  3. text written
     
  4. B scribe has more red paint now so adds this to his pages
     

  
  There would be no connection if it went something like this though:
  
  

  1. images penned
     
  2. text written
     
  3. images painted, apart from red
     
  4. Red added in separate pass. For some reason, this process did not reach the further pages.
     

  
  It seems clear to me that some pages did not undergo the red "pass", since the human figures on the recto of the Rosettes page don't have blush or red lips. Red also seems to be missing from f101r, while those containers are clearly asking for it.
  
  This topic is immensely complicated by the pages' being out of order though. I'm looking forward to Lisa's talk tomorrow, which might touch on page order.

• RE: Alchemical Symbolism in the VMS

  Barbrey > 25-09-2025, 06:09 PM

  (25-09-2025, 05:11 PM)Koen G Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.

  (25-09-2025, 04:35 PM)Barbrey Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.Correct me if I’m wrong, doesn’t that suggest that there is a connection between Scribe B and the painter who ran out of red?

  
  Not necessarily - you'd be surprised at the hypotheticals people can come up with
  
  There would be a connection, for example, in the following order of events:
  
  

  1. images penned
     
  2. images painted, red paint sparse
     
  3. text written
     
  4. B scribe has more red paint now so adds this to his pages
     

  
  There would be no connection if it went something like this though:
  
  

  1. images penned
     
  2. text written
     
  3. images painted, apart from red
     
  4. Red added in separate pass. For some reason, this process did not reach the further pages.
     

  
  It seems clear to me that some pages did not undergo the red "pass", since the human figures on the recto of the Rosettes page don't have blush or red lips. Red also seems to be missing from f101r, while those containers are clearly asking for it.
  
  This topic is immensely complicated by the pages' being out of order though. I'm looking forward to Lisa's talk tomorrow, which might touch on page order.

  
  I think one could argue red/orange is missing altogether from the rosettes pages too. The outer ring of stuff around the central sphere is clearly flames. Hildebrand got the colour right, but our painter leaves them pale yellow. I just don’t know if this is the painter’s choice for …reasons…or they ran out of red.

• RE: Alchemical Symbolism in the VMS

  R. Sale > 25-09-2025, 09:25 PM

  It could be as simple as something left for later, but later never happened.
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