ReneZ > 02-01-2020, 10:15 PM
Mark Knowles > 02-01-2020, 10:17 PM
Mark Knowles > 02-01-2020, 10:27 PM
(02-01-2020, 10:15 PM)ReneZ Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.In general, the success or failure of translating the Voynich MS *DOES NOT* depend on the quality of the scans. If one believes that, one is just fooling oneself.
There are 200+ pages of completely legible writing in high-resolution. Some small areas are more difficult to read. Other areas are clear but we are still not certain how to interpret them because this is handwriting with all its variations.
There is more than enough information in these 200+ pages.
ReneZ > 02-01-2020, 10:33 PM
(02-01-2020, 10:27 PM)Mark Knowles Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.Well if the quality of scans doesn't matter then I guess we should all go back to using black and white photocopies.
-JKP- > 02-01-2020, 10:35 PM
(02-01-2020, 10:27 PM)Mark Knowles Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view....
Well if the quality of scans doesn't matter then I guess we should all go back to using black and white photocopies. If it is not clear what is written and this is certainly the case in some instances then we can only conclude that more visual information could help. As discussed the writing is obviously not completely legible on this instance and likely many others.
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Mark Knowles > 02-01-2020, 10:41 PM
(02-01-2020, 10:35 PM)-JKP- Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.(02-01-2020, 10:27 PM)Mark Knowles Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view....
Well if the quality of scans doesn't matter then I guess we should all go back to using black and white photocopies. If it is not clear what is written and this is certainly the case in some instances then we can only conclude that more visual information could help. As discussed the writing is obviously not completely legible on this instance and likely many others.
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This is not a good argument. The current scans are larger than the original document and full color, so it's not a relevant comparison to the old photocopies.
The current scans are good enough. The only reason I'm interested in the spectral scans is because different wavelengths reveal different details.
Mark Knowles > 02-01-2020, 10:49 PM
(02-01-2020, 10:33 PM)ReneZ Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.(02-01-2020, 10:27 PM)Mark Knowles Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.Well if the quality of scans doesn't matter then I guess we should all go back to using black and white photocopies.
Mark, are you not aware that you are being unreasonable?
Saying that what we have is good enough is not the same as saying that anything is good enough.
But it's even worse.
Indeed, the B/W copies are good enough. They were good enough for the Friedmans to conclude that this is not some sort of a cipher. They were good enough for Jorge Stolfi to develop his several word paradigms and word grammars to exemplify this even better.
ReneZ > 02-01-2020, 10:55 PM
Mark Knowles > 02-01-2020, 11:20 PM
Anton > 02-01-2020, 11:32 PM