nickpelling > 16-12-2019, 01:54 PM
(16-12-2019, 09:31 AM)ReneZ Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.Rather than considering a virtual right margin in the final manuscript, I would prefer to consider a true margin in a source document, for example a draft.
RenegadeHealer > 16-12-2019, 06:22 PM
(15-12-2019, 07:58 AM)-JKP- Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.I have 1100 pages of information like this (a concordance of the location and behavior of every pattern in the VMS), plus a related database, plus a color-coded transcript, plus a lot of statistical information for each. It would probably take me a year to write it all up.
-JKP- > 16-12-2019, 07:30 PM
MarcoP > 16-12-2019, 08:17 PM
Quote:In Voynichese, we see the EVA letter combination ‘-am’ predominantly at the right-hand end of lines, which has given rise to the long-standing suspicion that this might encipher a hyphen character, or a rare character (say ‘X’) appropriated to use as a hyphen character. For what conceivable kind of character would have a preference for appearing at the end of a line?
RenegadeHealer > 16-12-2019, 09:24 PM
(16-12-2019, 07:30 PM)-JKP- Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.So now I have this huge resource that is not compatible with anything else out there. Sharing it piecemeal doesn't seem to work. I'm a big picture person and the bits and pieces don't mean anything unless you have the whole puzzle in front of you. But if I give it all away, then I'm giving away 12 years of work.
So... as of a couple of days ago (because of threads like this), I'm putting some brain cycles into how this can be done (and whether it should be done). I hate seeing people re-invent the wheel when good tools are available, but there also has to be a balance. It wouldn't be fair if I simply gave up a considerable chunk of my life and got nothing in return.
Anton > 16-12-2019, 11:45 PM
(16-12-2019, 01:54 PM)nickpelling Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.(16-12-2019, 09:31 AM)ReneZ Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.Rather than considering a virtual right margin in the final manuscript, I would prefer to consider a true margin in a source document, for example a draft.
If the hypothesis that the Voynich has (somehow) managed to preserve much of the formatting in the source document(s) it was derived from is correct, then it would be a reasonable prediction that the right hand edge in the source document was also straight.
In which case one might reason that the source document probably used hyphens, something that the EVA -m line-terminal groups also suggest.
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Koen G > 17-12-2019, 12:17 AM
(16-12-2019, 11:45 PM)Anton Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.This "source document" hypothesis is shaky: it leads us to the conclusion that the source document had the same drawings.
(16-12-2019, 01:43 PM)nickpelling Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.Koen: that's exactly the right starting point, though you'd probably need trigraphs etcto avoid going too fine with EVA strokes, e.g. octh.
Anton > 17-12-2019, 12:46 AM
Quote:I fail to understand why this would be problematic though. There are so many possibilities. Maybe at some point various versions existed.
nickpelling > 17-12-2019, 12:46 AM
(16-12-2019, 11:45 PM)Anton Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.This "source document" hypothesis is shaky: it leads us to the conclusion that the source document had the same drawings. Otherwise, it's not clear why, preserving the supposed margin of the source document in certain places, the scribe did not take the trouble to preserve it in other places. E.g. in You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view. the supposed "source document" receives no respect. Why would it be respected e.g. in the first paragraph of f22v?
Anton > 17-12-2019, 01:02 AM