Mark Knowles > 04-10-2019, 11:59 PM
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Mark Knowles > 05-10-2019, 12:24 AM
(04-10-2019, 11:21 PM)Koen G Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.The strip map. It's much less regular.
Castle - small castle - castle - river - split:
- tower - tower - tower....
- tower - tower - pyramid? ....
That's its structure, it's variable. But in the VM, there's a strong overarching structure of nine circles, connected in a structured manner.
Both appear schematic, that is true. But the strip map makes the scheme follow the variability of the routes, while in the VM everything is presented in what appears to be a much more symbolic diagram.
And while the VM foldout's structure is less varied, its contents is more so.
Mark Knowles > 05-10-2019, 12:30 AM
(05-10-2019, 12:00 AM)-JKP- Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.(04-10-2019, 10:43 PM)bi3mw Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.
A paper on the "map theory" ( Jürgen Wastl and Danielle Feger )
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Mark Knowles > 05-10-2019, 12:53 AM
(05-10-2019, 12:36 AM)-JKP- Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.Mark, I know you've been working on this in a dedicated way and you are also honest about crediting which parts of the ideas you got from Nick. I have no doubt you are really trying to solve it, not just trying to get something published that makes it look like you're ahead of the pack (which is the impression I get from this paper which seems superficial and which credits a lot of out-of-date sources and none of the recent ones).
Linda > 05-10-2019, 02:07 AM
(04-10-2019, 11:59 PM)Mark Knowles Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.I thought I would refer again to the following map where some of the blue and white wavy lines represent rivers. By some people it is thought that on the 9 rosettes page the blue and white wavy lines represent the sea, but I think the idea that they represent lakes or rivers should not be discounted. I spent quite a lot of time trying to make sense of the page where these blue and white wavy lines represented sea and this seemed quite impossible to make sense of.
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Linda > 05-10-2019, 02:32 AM
(04-10-2019, 10:59 PM)Mark Knowles Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.This is a page of Matthew Paris's Strip Map. I think strips like these are what we see with the causeways on the rosettes page. Note the central rosette is not connected by causeways and I would argue not a geographical location, but a theme relating to the page.
Linda > 05-10-2019, 03:30 AM
(05-10-2019, 12:36 AM)-JKP- Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.Mark, I know you've been working on this in a dedicated way and you are also honest about crediting which parts of the ideas you got from Nick. I have no doubt you are really trying to solve it, not just trying to get something published that makes it look like you're ahead of the pack (which is the impression I get from this paper which seems superficial and which credits a lot of out-of-date sources and none of the recent ones).
Linda > 05-10-2019, 03:33 AM
(05-10-2019, 12:53 AM)Mark Knowles Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.(05-10-2019, 12:36 AM)-JKP- Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.Mark, I know you've been working on this in a dedicated way and you are also honest about crediting which parts of the ideas you got from Nick. I have no doubt you are really trying to solve it, not just trying to get something published that makes it look like you're ahead of the pack (which is the impression I get from this paper which seems superficial and which credits a lot of out-of-date sources and none of the recent ones).
Yes, of course, there is a lot of my thinking that I have been quite uncomfortable about making public yet. I was asked as I explained my analysis to Professor Harvey and others if I would write a paper about my theory for a Journal about the History of Cartography, but given that I can't definitively proof my theory I was somewhat cagey about it as I didn't want it to reflect badly on their journal if it ever turned out to be flawed and as we know in the highly publicised world of Voynich research this could be problematic.