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(22-04-2021, 07:02 PM)Pardis Motiee Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.Are the labeled constellations from script to star or from star to the script? For example in Andromeda, how is it concluded; with knowing the stars located in Andromeda you have checked for names or you have translated the script and it pointed the stars.
Monica Yokubinas > 26-04-2021, 03:38 PM
(26-04-2021, 03:34 PM)Monica Yokubinas Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.(22-04-2021, 07:02 PM)Pardis Motiee Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.Are the labeled constellations from script to star or from star to the script? For example in Andromeda, how is it concluded; with knowing the stars located in Andromeda you have checked for names or you have translated the script and it pointed the stars.
Thank you Pardis Motiee for asking.
I was actually working on translating my notes and clarification for this. This star chart had to be flipped ( it was set up like the ancient astrolabes), and the first one that was easily understandable was for the Demon Star, ancient name of Ra'as, current name Al-Ghul. Still working on translating my notes, but here are the first 12. Hopefully the pic works (i'm bad at this)
Some of the stars are easy to utilize the phonetic Voynich into Arabic, others needed a lot more digging on ancient meanings and names.
Star number, Voynich phonetic spelling, Ancient name, Language & meaning, and star/Constellation.
1. achazyychyg, ach azyqym/Al-Kaff, Hebrew for brother handcuffs/Arabic for hand, Cassiopeia
2. yyfanaz, Yf Anz/Alpheratz, Hebrew for fair force/Arabic for The horses head, star between Andromeda & Pegasas.
3. Arutta, Arit inEgyptian and Mizar in Arabic for waistband or girdle, Mirach in Andromeda.
4. Ayyang, Al-Janah Arabic for the wing, Epsilon Cygni
5. yayrsn, yay rsn Hebrew to sweep the bridle/Egyptian Ahtyr the 7 Hathors, Pleiades.
6. Ryyaz, Ra’as Al-Ghul, Arabic for Head of the Ghoul/Demon Star, Beta Persei.
7. Charsnsttzg, Chrtzym Hebrew Chrysanthemum, Messier 13 in Hercules armpit.
8. azyqbfg, az yqb pg Hebrew then winepress unripe fruit (Dionysus gave Icarius secret to wine making, Bootes.
9. Ahyyan, Ayn Hebrew and Arabic for eye, Epsilon Tauri
10. achfaaz,
11. Auryyg, Auriga Latin for Charioteer, Constellation Auriga.
12. Ahfqarg, Al-Firqah Arabic for the flock of sheep, Cepheis/beta Cephei.
Monica Yokubinas > 27-04-2021, 06:14 PM
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Monica Yokubinas > 08-11-2022, 03:17 PM
(13-02-2022, 06:35 PM)Monica Yokubinas Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.Hope everyone is doing well
As many of you know, the names of the stars and constellations have undergone numerous name changes throughout history. Many names still bare Arabic and Greek names, with alterations over time. My original charts were a preliminary overview, and I wanted to redo them, and dig deeper into their historical names, meanings and show how many stars were mixed up in translations or even the stars themselves, could have been attributed to a different star, than the one intended.
While redoing 68r1, I came across something fascinating. Some of the Voynich stars are actually phonetically similar to their Arabic or Greek astronomical names… here are a few examples. And Yes, they align perfectly within the star chart.
68r1 is the Summer Solstice
68r2 in the Winter Solstice
(I was concentrating too much on definitions and not on the proper phonetics.)
First is Voynich (sound out phonetically), Next is Hebrew or Arabic or Greek definition, last is current star name Remember: the ‘g’ glyph at the end of a word, open is a soft gah sound and closed g is a hard g sound. I/J/Y all have similar sounds as do C/K/CH/Q, J/G and P/F/V.
11. Ypya ychyg, ypya ychyg, Hebrew for Japhia (may the deity shine) and long live, Arabic is Fyja for Vega
16. Azdb, Adh-Dhi’b Arabic for the wolf, Adib, Alpha Draconis.
20. Ahazrg, Al-Izar, Arabic for the loin cloth, Izar, Epsilon Bootes.
21. Ghyyru, Gh yr (Hebrew for this fear) Giausar (Arabic) Ghauzar (Persian for tail of the Dragon) Lambda Draconis
22. Paqarychyg, Pchr/Pqyr ypyg, Hebrew for potters clay/Fakir and beauty, (Fakir Definition is both for Arabic and Hindi “religious ascetic who lives solely on God” Cassiopeia in the other star chart on 68r2 as achazyypyuh or aCazepiah. (I had transcribed the wrong letters previously) *see bottom note.
24. Sypyah, Spica Latin, Spica in Virgo.
25. Ahqaruz, Arktourous/Arktos in Greek meaning guardian of the bear, Al-Simak in Arabic, Arcturus
27. Alruma, Al Rma (Hebrew for God of the high place) Al-Ruba (Arabic for the foal) ar-Ruba
28. Achayyfrg, Al-Firqah, Arabic for the flock of sheep, Al-Firk, Beta Cephei.
Cassiopeia appears in both the Winter Solstice 68r2 and the Summer Solstice 68r1. There are 2 different names for this Queen. Cassiopeia in Winter and Paqarypyg in Summer. Cassiopeia is cursed and placed in the heavens, while the alternate in Summer has definitions of: ran out, open, or prison release.
Why is this relevant? All cultures have mythology associated with the dying of winter and the birth of summer solstices.
In Hindi: Kali and Shakti
Slavic: Morana and Vesna
Britain: The Holly king and the Oak king
Greek: Persephone and Demeter
Norse: Frigg and Baldr
Babylonian: Tammuz and Istar
Egyptian: Osiris and Isis
Wayne R. Tucker > 14-01-2023, 10:19 PM
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