davidjackson > 06-04-2019, 07:21 PM
Quote:The general principle of the IPA is to provide one letter for each distinctive sound (You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.), although this practice is not followed if the sound itself is complex.You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view. to represent single sounds, the way You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view. does with ⟨sh⟩, ⟨th⟩ and ⟨ng⟩, or single letters to represent multiple sounds the way ⟨x⟩ represents /ks/ or /ɡz/ in English.
- There are no letters that have context-dependent sound values, as do "hard" and "soft" You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view. or You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view. in several European languages.
- The IPA does not usually have separate letters for two sounds if no known language makes a distinction between them, a property known as "selectiveness".You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.
Among the symbols of the IPA, 107 letters represent You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view. and You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view., 31 You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view. are used to modify these, and 19 additional signs indicate You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view. qualities such as You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view., You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view., You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view., and You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.
Koen G > 06-04-2019, 07:51 PM
Quote:"When Ambrose read, his eyes ran over the columns of writing and his heart searched out the meaning, but his voice and his tongue were at rest. Often when I was present—for he did not close his door to anyone and it was customary to come in unannounced—I have seen him reading silently, never in fact otherwise. I would sit for a long time in silence, not daring to disturb someone so deep in thought, and then go on my way. I asked myself why he read in this way. Was it that he did not wish to be interrupted in those rare moments he found to refresh his mind and rest from the tumult of others' affairs? Or perhaps he was worried that he would have to explain obscurities in the text to some eager listener, or discuss other difficult problems? For he would thereby lose time and be prevented from reading as much as he had planned. But the preservation of his voice, which easily became hoarse, may well have been the true cause of his silent reading."
davidjackson > 06-04-2019, 08:19 PM
Quote:Aren't we still in the situation where we try to guess sound values for glyphs, as we've been for a hundred years?Exactly, as in my first method.
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geoffreycaveney > 07-04-2019, 05:15 PM
(06-04-2019, 07:21 PM)davidjackson Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.Question
So is there enough regularity in the glyph distribution to permit its phonetic structure to shine through? Well, I think there is. I'm starting to suspect that the glyphs work on both a bigram and digram level -some represent simple sounds, others represent more complicated or regular speech patterns. This is why we see regularity in the tokens, we could be talking about a proto-Italian dialect with the traditional "sing-song" vocal endings of words, etc. Certainly more research into this area is required.
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So, people, ideas please.
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