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• RE: Gallows and patterns in Ros

  -JKP- > 19-10-2018, 04:07 PM

  (19-10-2018, 01:10 PM)ReneZ Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.I prefer to be more careful.
  
  The different faces of the two Aries and the two Taurus may well be evidence of two different draftsmen. I can't say.

  
  I have no doubt about this. Absolutely none. It isn't just a completely different style, it's also a matter of competence, how the pen is held, how the stroke is pulled along the paper, how the shapes are balanced. If the VMS illustrator had had the skill do to this, all the drawings would be different from what we see.
  
  
  As for the added breasts, and other similar amendations, I can't say. I haven't scrutinized them well enough to know and don't know when I'll have time to do so.

• RE: Gallows and patterns in Ros

  Linda > 05-04-2019, 06:09 PM

  (16-10-2018, 12:22 PM)bi3mw Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.It seems possible that it is a kind of marker to make a connection between text and image part on the rosette folio. Or is that too farfetched ?

  
  I think it is entirely possible that the similarity is intended to link the quire 13 text and imagery to the rosettes.
  
  Thanks for pointing this out. 
  
  In my own interpretation, the coincidences with the identifications abound. f78v depicts the Sea of Marmora, f78r portrays the gulfs of Lesbos, the mid right rosette shown represents the Aegean sea. All these things are connected, not only in proximity, and a sharing of water, but also in that volcanic activity is noted for all three as well.
  
  
  
  I find it very coincidental that if you place the rosette as the north one, it fits the shape of the Aegean sea and that these lines would come from the bottom of it, where most of the volcanic activity occurs. 
  
  Perhaps it is showing that certain types of rock are noted in these locations? Maybe it denotes earthquakes or tremors? Some other commonality?
  
  As for the bottom right rosette, i see this as the area of Turkey/Armenia/Iran/Iraq. Again there are volcanic aspects of the area, Mount Ararat is a dormant volcano situated at the junction of these. Note that the lines come from another motif that i see as mountains, perhaps it is showing the difference between uplifted sedimentary rock and volcanic metamorphic types. 
  
  Wiki says the Greater Caucasus Mountains have a mainly folded sedimentary structure, the Lesser Caucasus Mountains are largely of volcanic origin.[3]
  
  This is exactly what is shown, if these lines correspond to volcanic activity. Especially if the rosette is set as the NE rosette, similarly to how the E rosette best represents the Aegean sea if it becomes N.
  
  The sea of Marmora is named for marble, a metamorphic rock type. The gulfs of Lesbos were formed through volcanic activity. There seems to be a connection.
  
  
  
  Note also that many of these locations follow a certain latitude,  around the 40th parallel north. There is volcanic activity in almost every place along this line, at least in terms of the ecumene at the time.
  
  I came across this just by accident but it could link to the plants somehow too. Seems to be good for growing tomatoes, at least.
  
  

• RE: Gallows and patterns in Ros

  bi3mw > 14-09-2020, 03:16 PM

  I would like to add that in folio You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view. , unlike e.g. folio You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view. and folio You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view. , the strokes are grouped. So, as already said, it really seems to be more than just decoration.
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