ReneZ > 28-08-2018, 03:13 PM
(28-08-2018, 10:50 AM)-JKP- Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.If they don't like being contradicted by non-botanists, why are they standing by their identifications of crayfish, fish and cats? They are botanists, not fish and cat experts. They can't have it both ways.
DONJCH > 28-08-2018, 04:45 PM
(28-08-2018, 01:27 PM)-JKP- Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view. The authors are claiming that the following shape from "florid Spanish signatures" on Osuma f 13v inspired Voynichese p:
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Tucker and Janick then make this statement, based on shapes that they may not realize are commonly found in medieval manuscripts but which they are specifically picking out of MesoAmerican texts...
"We thus conclude that the author of the Voynich Codex made up his syllabary/alphabet, and the letters were borrowed from contemporary post-Conquest MesoAmerican manuscripts such as the Codex Osuma."
-JKP- > 28-08-2018, 08:03 PM
(28-08-2018, 03:13 PM)ReneZ Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.(28-08-2018, 10:50 AM)-JKP- Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.If they don't like being contradicted by non-botanists, why are they standing by their identifications of crayfish, fish and cats? They are botanists, not fish and cat experts. They can't have it both ways.
Of course I agree with your and everyone else's objections to this work, but I can add that the animal identifications are primarily based on the work of a Purdue wildlife zoologist.
ReneZ > 29-08-2018, 07:48 AM
doranchak > 29-08-2018, 04:10 PM
Quote:The paper was generally treated with hostility by many members of the Voynich internet community, but received congratulations from academics. It proved a revelation to Janick, who had had minor contact with the Voynich Codex, first from a graduate student, Angela Catalina Ghionea, who was seeking advice for her doctoral thesis on magic and science, and later by Professor Lincoln Taiz, who submitted a manuscript on Voynich to Janick, who served as science editor for Chronica Horticulturae. Tucker’s HerbalGram paper was immediately grasped by Janick as a breakthrough and a collaboration was formed that later included Fernando Moreira, a Canadian linguist, and Elizabeth A. Flaherty, a wildlife zoologist at Purdue University. The present book is based on this collaboration.
Anton > 29-08-2018, 05:14 PM
Koen G > 29-08-2018, 05:37 PM
davidjackson > 29-08-2018, 06:41 PM
Quote:The authors are claiming that the following shape from "florid Spanish signatures" on Osuma f 13v inspired Voynichese p:I'm sorry, that's just nonsense. You're trying to tell me that no other language has a 'florid signature' ? Or that Spanish uniquely used to have a stylistic convention in signatures that led to this symbol being commonly accepted ?
-JKP- > 29-08-2018, 08:12 PM
-JKP- > 30-08-2018, 05:37 AM