Morten St. George > 22-01-2018, 04:14 AM
(31-10-2017, 04:15 PM)Anton Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.Yes, the advantage of this interpretation is that not only the stuff looks like those intestines, but also "lab" means abomasum in German. Abomasum is peculiar to ruminants, so not necessarily a goat: may be, say, a lamb.
BTW, it was exactly Damschen who once suggested the reading of "lab" (I quote him in my blog post referenced above), but somehow he did not pay much attention to that option.
Diane > 30-01-2018, 04:34 AM
Morten St. George > 30-01-2018, 06:40 AM
(30-01-2018, 04:34 AM)Diane Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.Well I see it as a pot-bellied dragon, long-necked, quite cute-looking. I did once find a closely similar detail in a manuscript but that was before 2013 when a voracious bushfire decided to get a bit too "up-close and personal" with our home.
I don't see any need to suppose a very close link between a doodle-like drawing on an end-page and a bit of marginalia. No necessary connection.
Anton > 30-01-2018, 10:27 PM
Morten St. George > 30-01-2018, 11:11 PM
(30-01-2018, 10:27 PM)Anton Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.Hi Morten,
My focus on the abomasum has been not about the exact animal (whether lamb, deer or otherwise - so far it's ruminant it would fit the concept), but about that "lab" is rennet-bag in German. Being augmented with the pics of the ruminant-like animal and the abomasum-like object, this (amongst some other pieces of You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view. marginalia) directs one to a question of what does that mean that the scribe picked up German (of all possible languages) to inscript at least part of f116v. This question becomes even more interesting in the view of the last line, which combines Voynichese with plain text - suggesting that it was a person who "understood" Voynichese who wrote the marginalia. In other words, the person knew at least a bit of some kind of those days' "German" and preferred to use it on this occasion.
-JKP- > 31-01-2018, 01:09 AM
Quote:Morten St George:
I'm confused: Are you insinuating that the script on the last page of the VMS, in contrast to the drawings of animal and woman, was not made by the original author but was added at a later date?
Morten St. George > 31-01-2018, 12:08 PM
(31-01-2018, 01:09 AM)-JKP- Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.Quote:Morten St George:
I'm confused: Are you insinuating that the script on the last page of the VMS, in contrast to the drawings of animal and woman, was not made by the original author but was added at a later date?
It's not the same handwriting as the main text, so the text on the last page is probably marginalia.
Whether the person who wrote it knew the people who created the manuscript is a completely different question. The handwriting is consistent with script from the early 15th century (I have determined this through my own research after collecting thousands of samples), so it's possible whoever wrote it lived at approximately the same time as the manuscript was created.
As for the images, they look like they were drawn by the same person who drew the illustrations in the main text.
Anton > 31-01-2018, 03:20 PM
Quote:I'm confused: Are you insinuating that the script on the last page of the VMS, in contrast to the drawings of animal and woman, was not made by the original author but was added at a later date?
Koen G > 31-01-2018, 04:45 PM
Helmut Winkler > 31-01-2018, 06:43 PM