-JKP- > 02-10-2017, 03:07 AM
(01-10-2017, 10:37 PM)Dispator Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view....F8r looks like an obvious Hedera to me. it climbs from the bottom to the top of the page+the amount of text on that page suggest Hedera cause of its long history of use and worship.
MarcoP > 02-10-2017, 08:34 AM
Dispator > 02-10-2017, 09:54 AM
(02-10-2017, 03:07 AM)-JKP- Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.I read the links and the blog you posted, and i have to say i disagree. If You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view. looks like aconitum to you then we have a considerable difference in perception of the images presented, which is good.(01-10-2017, 10:37 PM)Dispator Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view....F8r looks like an obvious Hedera to me. it climbs from the bottom to the top of the page+the amount of text on that page suggest Hedera cause of its long history of use and worship.
Here are some of my IDs for plant 8r (these were done a long time ago, but my opinions on it haven't changed). I don't think it's obvious that the VMS leaf is Hedera, if you consider all these other possibilities:
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Here is my opinion on the most likely candidate for Hedera (it might not be, it could also be Bryonia, which retains its berries after the leaves are gone, but it's quite possibly Hedera). I posted this in July 2013 and it generated some discussion on the ninja forum more than a year ago:
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I couldn't find the original thread, but here is one of the follow-up threads on the oak and ivy theme:
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-JKP- > 02-10-2017, 09:56 AM
-JKP- > 02-10-2017, 10:01 AM
Dispator > 02-10-2017, 10:10 AM
(02-10-2017, 08:34 AM)MarcoP Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.Hi Dispator, You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view. as Napellus has also been mentioned You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view..Good day!
I think comparisons with late medieval herbals are always interesting. I attach a few examples of Napellum / Napelo.
-JKP- > 02-10-2017, 10:21 AM
Anton > 02-10-2017, 10:48 AM
Dispator > 02-10-2017, 11:25 AM
(02-10-2017, 10:48 AM)Anton Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.Hi Dispator, and welcome to the forum!
In the Imagery subforum, we use to dedicate a single thread for each botanical section folio, so please feel free to comment in the dedicated threads and don't hesitate to create absent ones.
It's cool that you also identify You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view. as Aconite. This ID has been suggested in the past (by Steve D who is not a professional botanist AFAIK), and also this suggestion is in line with image mnemonics (Marco already referenced our thread about that above). The mnemonics suggestions sometimes are quite tentative and uncertain, so any valuation by professional botanists is appreciated.
You may wish to look through suggestions elaborated so far: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view. and provide your comments (in the subject threads).
-JKP- > 02-10-2017, 11:53 PM