davidjackson > 31-03-2018, 08:59 PM
ChenZheChina > 09-01-2019, 12:28 PM
(30-03-2018, 01:49 PM)Koen G Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.I like this avenue of investigation, to focus on finding "and", but depending on the language this may be more difficult - even if it's not a clitic. For example, in modern Turkish, "and" is expressed by ve, de, da, ile... There are also constructions with ister and ya, where those words also replace English and. And that's just after a superficial google search. This means that the relative frequency of each of these words will be lower than that of "and" in English.
(30-03-2018, 05:05 PM)Anton Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.That's not good. Why would one need so many different words to express the same logical operator?
MarcoP > 19-01-2020, 07:30 PM
Anton > 19-01-2020, 08:11 PM
(19-01-2020, 07:30 PM)MarcoP Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.If Voynichese is meaningful and its words correspond to words in a natural language, I can only think of these possibilities:
- the underlying language has no function words (I am not sure this is really possible);
- the same function words in the "source" language are represented by different words in the different sections.
Anton > 19-01-2020, 08:16 PM
MarcoP > 19-01-2020, 09:37 PM
(19-01-2020, 08:11 PM)Anton Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.How about function words represented by prefixes or suffixes?
(19-01-2020, 08:16 PM)Anton Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.Another thing which recently came to my attention through that stuff of Tranchedino (or whatever his name is) is that one-to-many mapping should not be treated as something impossible.
If one word can be mapped to two or three vords, that completely muddles all our word frequency statistics.
nablator > 19-01-2020, 11:05 PM
(19-01-2020, 09:37 PM)MarcoP Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.While I don't think that something like a diplomatic cipher is possible, a nomenclator with different cipher words for each "source" word could partially explain what we observe here. I think this is what nablator meant in You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view..
MarcoP > 20-01-2020, 11:26 AM
MarcoP > 16-02-2021, 04:16 PM
Koen G > 16-02-2021, 05:48 PM