Anton > 16-09-2017, 04:19 PM
VViews > 16-09-2017, 06:32 PM
Koen G > 16-09-2017, 07:19 PM
-JKP- > 16-09-2017, 07:27 PM
(16-09-2017, 12:51 PM)Stephen.Bax Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.You need then to tell Michael Ventris, who deciphered Linear B and identified it as Greek, that his methodology was wrong :-)
I am not sure from your description that you have grasped the underlying principles of what I was trying to do.
And also you have definitely not understood how I was referring to Arabic. It is simply wrong to say that I "maps words like Taurus and Centaur/Centaurus and Coriander to Arabic"..... where did I map the word Taurus to Arabic? Or Coriander? I cannot see how you got to this interpretation.
-JKP- > 16-09-2017, 07:31 PM
(16-09-2017, 02:05 PM)davidjackson Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.Quite the contrary Nick. We put a very specific critique which you have made in the past to Stephen, and made it clear that we had taken the idea from your site. That is why your name was mentioned.
Apart from the tongue in cheek 'Voynich shock jock' comment Stephen made about you -and you certainly are not shy about making your feelings known about Voynich theories, in a way that is always amusing and insightful - I don't remember any personal attacks being made against you, or at least, none that aren't the same sort of accusations you make against Stephen.
Anyway, I suggested you made up with Stephen and you seem to be attacking me instead so I'm not sure where we're going with this.
Emma May Smith > 16-09-2017, 07:52 PM
-JKP- > 16-09-2017, 07:54 PM
(16-09-2017, 07:52 PM)Emma May Smith Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.I don't know why there is an idea that Bax's method is similar to Ventris's. It isn't. Ventris (and Kober) constructed a series of interlocking sound values for multiple characters before guessing a single word. It was this table of sounds values which allowed the solution to be both a) self-propagating by suggesting more sound values, and b) self-checking by rejecting forced sound values. Once Ventris had made a handful of correct guesses, the rest was history.
Also, Bax's solution isn't that much like Champollion's, before anybody suggests that.
Stephen.Bax > 17-09-2017, 12:41 AM
(16-09-2017, 04:00 PM)Koen Gh. Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.Moved to 'news' forum.
Nick, you've said much worse things about Stephen, what was said in the interview shouldn't offend you. This much. Either way it would benefit the study if we could stick to arguments about the manuscript.
-JKP- > 17-09-2017, 01:45 AM
(16-09-2017, 10:44 PM)MarcoP Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.(16-09-2017, 10:13 PM)-JKP- Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.Whatever he may have said to Nick about bigraphs and trigraphs is not relevant until it's established that they exist.
I find this point of view peculiar. If you think everything that is not established is irrelevant, we can resume our conversation when the manuscript is fully translated.