-JKP- > 14-04-2016, 11:26 AM
(08-03-2016, 07:32 PM)Anton Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view....
As for the derivation of some of the VMS symbols from Latin abbreviations - this is likely, but it is by no means "established". There is a good deal of researchers who would prefer to refrain from this derivation. Actually, if we consider EVA y, this is a shape of the Arabic digit "nine". I don't know if the Latin abbreviation symbol was derived from the digit or it is a standalone invention, but it is certainly not "established" whether the VMS script inherits the abbreviation or the digit. In my opinion, this is the former case, where the y shape is actually comprised of the c with the tail modifier (as suggested by Currier and recently revived by Cham), so as to mask the real glyph composition behind the "well-known" abbreviation symbol. But this is nothing more than a working hypothesis and it is simply not scientifically correct to dub it "established". In science, "established" means proven, consistently reproducible and independently verifiable. In fact, there are too few really established things about the Voynich Manuscript.
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Koen G > 14-04-2016, 11:45 AM
-JKP- > 14-04-2016, 11:48 AM
(14-04-2016, 11:45 AM)Koen Gh. Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view....
I'm not 100% sure yet about Voynich y. It may function as you say in some cases, but for now I read it as an "a with flourish". So just a fancy way of writing a. (this is clearer in the MS than in EVA). An indication for this is that Voynich a rarely appears at the end of words.
Koen G > 14-04-2016, 12:05 PM
Anton > 14-04-2016, 02:05 PM
(14-04-2016, 12:05 PM)Koen Gh. Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.Hmm. If you look You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view. for example, you'll see the first word on the second line. The initial "9" is clearly a 9 here: the "a" in the same word looks totally different.
Now on the other hand, look at the third word on the third line, final "9". That's not a 9, that's an a with a flourish.
Helmut Winkler > 14-04-2016, 05:19 PM
(14-04-2016, 11:26 AM)-JKP- Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.There are very few things about the VMS that I am sure of (most things I am unsure about, actually) but I AM sure that whoever devised the script was familiar with Latin abbreviations.
Anton > 14-04-2016, 06:49 PM
Wladimir D > 15-04-2016, 05:28 AM
Davidsch > 15-04-2016, 01:54 PM
(15-04-2016, 05:28 AM)Wladimir D Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.In compiling of algorithms I got the impression, that if there is a word, souse 89, the with probability is close to 80% exists the words "root of the word + 8" and " root of the word + 9".
Can anyone verify this programming throughout the text?
Helmut Winkler > 16-04-2016, 08:43 AM
(14-04-2016, 06:49 PM)Anton Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.Taking the script at its face value can be put under a very simple test. Let one take the most frequent word - daiin (or any other high-freq word). And then let him match this word or words with the pool of most frequent words in other contemporary works and see if he succeeds.