Vonologia > 16-06-2017, 03:34 PM
Paris > 16-06-2017, 08:12 PM
-JKP- > 16-06-2017, 09:43 PM
(16-06-2017, 03:34 PM)Vonologia Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.Would like to start a thread to discuss the House of Visconti.
Particularly interested in Gian Galeazzo (1351-1402) and his daughter Vanentina Visconti (the Duchess of Orleans)
and any relationship to the VMS.
Vonologia > 16-06-2017, 11:40 PM
Vonologia > 18-06-2017, 04:59 PM
(16-06-2017, 11:40 PM)Vonologia Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.(16-06-2017, 08:12 PM)Paris Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.May I ask you why do you think there is a relationship between the Voynich manuscript and the House of Visconti ?
Seize Soixante-Quatre reasons...Valentina Visconti.
Paris > 19-06-2017, 09:25 AM
Koen G > 19-06-2017, 09:42 AM
(19-06-2017, 09:25 AM)Paris Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.Like you, I accept the datation of Carbon14 and the estimation of the years of 1404 and 1438 for this manuscript.
That means that the VM was written after the oldest date, 1438.
I don't understand why Valentina Visconti, who died in 1408, should be the writer of this mysterious manuscript.
ReneZ > 19-06-2017, 10:30 AM
Vonologia > 19-06-2017, 09:30 PM
(19-06-2017, 10:30 AM)ReneZ Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.The Visconti's had a great library (Visconti-Sforza library), which was open to visitors. Chaucer, for one, visited it.
There are several catalogues of this library, including one written in 1426.
The library was taken to Blois (France) by Louis XII, and later from there to the national library in Paris.
One of the books that almost certainly (*) appears in the above-mentioned 1426 catalogue is BN MS Lat 6823, also known as the Manfredus herbal.
Now *if* (and that's still a big if) the Voynich author/artist was inspired by the Manfredus herbal for his oak+ivy illustration, at least we know he would have seen it in the Visconti-Sforza library in Pavia.
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Note (*): to make it even more complicated, Toresella has some objections against the identification of the Manfredus herbal with the entry in the 1426 catalogue.
-JKP- > 19-06-2017, 09:59 PM