12-12-2016, 08:52 PM
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I've read you paper quite rapidly and it was a nice read.
What's surprising is the swift confrontation with the 'spikes with the flags' represent fire.
Where is the basis for that? I would love to see some research on fire because the VMS rather lacks fire.
It could also be salt. The salt of the sea for example.
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Secondly the grouping of the pipes, needs more attention. What could the "grouping" mean and are there other items grouped in the ms?
What i see is 5 small pipes + 1 heigh pipe. On the left top are 5 high pipes.
Why it is important to refer to the Block paradigm throughout is not clear to me.
Cappadocia? What is interesting is karst, which appears in my research as well.
But the Turkish place has a lesser connection then similar European places.
Let's focus on Greece.
The Greek word for whirlwind seems to be ανεμοστρόβιλος or στρόβιλος.
I would love to have the original text from 5) so i can transliterate/ try to read it.
--- my addition ---
From the same book translation. starting at
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CH II
The winds
The winds are called Euri. From the north Boreael those from the setting sun Zephyri;those from the south Noti. etc. see the image and names. Then a description follows. Lightning, rainbow variations, halo, comets etc.
...as the earth contains many sources of water, so it also contains many sources of wind and fire. Of these some are subterranean and invisible, but many have vents and spiracles, as Lipare, Etna and the volcanoes of the Aeolian islands.
..earthquakes..winds caused by earthquakes. ...Chasms form in it (in the sea) and its waters often retire or the waves rush in;this is sometimes followed by a recoil and sometimes there is merely a forward surge of water, as is said to have occurred at Helice and Bura.
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Helike (Greek: Ἑλίκη ) was an ancient Greek city that was submerged by a tsunami in the winter of 373 BC.
Are the pipes/vents that are coming from all 4 corner rosettes, aiming at the middle rosette, wind vents or earthly manifestations?
CH III
The senses, de sensu
..we must next consider what account we are to give of any one of them...colour..sound...odour..or savour..and touch.
...p442/311...savours and colours, it will be observed contain respectively about the same number of species. For there are seven species of each, if, as is reasonable, we regard Dun (or grey) in black or yellow in white. If we merged both we should have only six.: if we allowed both to stand out, eight...the seven colours are thus crimson, violet, green blue, black, white with either yellow or Dun.
Added another thought.
Aristotle is talking a lot about ratios. Especially in the footnotes. It is clear that the pipes also have a ratio in the group 1/5 but also 5 biggies/1 middle rosette.
What's surprising is the swift confrontation with the 'spikes with the flags' represent fire.
Where is the basis for that? I would love to see some research on fire because the VMS rather lacks fire.
It could also be salt. The salt of the sea for example.
like discussed on You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.
and final answer on You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.
Secondly the grouping of the pipes, needs more attention. What could the "grouping" mean and are there other items grouped in the ms?
What i see is 5 small pipes + 1 heigh pipe. On the left top are 5 high pipes.
Why it is important to refer to the Block paradigm throughout is not clear to me.
Cappadocia? What is interesting is karst, which appears in my research as well.
But the Turkish place has a lesser connection then similar European places.
Let's focus on Greece.
The Greek word for whirlwind seems to be ανεμοστρόβιλος or στρόβιλος.
I would love to have the original text from 5) so i can transliterate/ try to read it.
--- my addition ---
From the same book translation. starting at
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CH II
The winds
The winds are called Euri. From the north Boreael those from the setting sun Zephyri;those from the south Noti. etc. see the image and names. Then a description follows. Lightning, rainbow variations, halo, comets etc.
...as the earth contains many sources of water, so it also contains many sources of wind and fire. Of these some are subterranean and invisible, but many have vents and spiracles, as Lipare, Etna and the volcanoes of the Aeolian islands.
..earthquakes..winds caused by earthquakes. ...Chasms form in it (in the sea) and its waters often retire or the waves rush in;this is sometimes followed by a recoil and sometimes there is merely a forward surge of water, as is said to have occurred at Helice and Bura.
Note: see the map onYou are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.
Helike (Greek: Ἑλίκη ) was an ancient Greek city that was submerged by a tsunami in the winter of 373 BC.
Are the pipes/vents that are coming from all 4 corner rosettes, aiming at the middle rosette, wind vents or earthly manifestations?
CH III
The senses, de sensu
..we must next consider what account we are to give of any one of them...colour..sound...odour..or savour..and touch.
...p442/311...savours and colours, it will be observed contain respectively about the same number of species. For there are seven species of each, if, as is reasonable, we regard Dun (or grey) in black or yellow in white. If we merged both we should have only six.: if we allowed both to stand out, eight...the seven colours are thus crimson, violet, green blue, black, white with either yellow or Dun.
Added another thought.
Aristotle is talking a lot about ratios. Especially in the footnotes. It is clear that the pipes also have a ratio in the group 1/5 but also 5 biggies/1 middle rosette.