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Liaisons in the Voynich text
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(07-11-2026, 11:30 PM)nablator wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.V101 has é but I haven't checked if all of them are recorded. There are also e converted to other gallows (or gallows with a wobbly leg like the t on f23v.1) but they are not recorded in any public transliteration AFAIK.

@nablator thanks, you are right, v101 has it: f1v.10 is “@233;ol” there (é). GC uses é only 3 times, so I put them next to ZL, plus the f101r.3 one:
  • f1r.24: GC é where ZL reads “far”, next word “cthol”
  • f1v.10: GC é where ZL reads “pol”, next word “chodar”
  • f116r.19: GC é where ZL reads the p of “porchey” (GC splits it “por,chey”)
  • f101r.3: first word of a paragraph. Its not a normal p or t, its an odd gallows with a c in it (ZL and RF write @183, GC transcribes both, e and t), then “ol”. Next word “{c@133;h}eol”, so it starts with a c too

Two things I find interesting:
  1. if the e (or c) had stayed, the words would start with e (ear, eol, eor) or be “col”, which doesnt exist either. Words almost never start with e (0.24%) so the fix makes sense, and in f101r.3 its a paragraph start that wants a gallows anyway.
  2. in all four, what comes right after starts with a bench (cthol, chodar, chey, c?heol). The first stroke of a c/ch is exactly an e curve. So it looks like the scribe skipped the gallows word, started the next word with its c, noticed, and wrote the gallows on top. By chance the next word starts with a bench about 30% of the time, so 4 of 4 is <1%. Only 4 cases and I picked the rule after seeing them, so take it with salt.

If its right, its an eye-skip error, the kind you make when copying from something that already exists.

Your other e->gallows ones (like the wobbly t on f23v.1), does the next word start with c/ch/sh too? That would be a clean test, since I havent seen those.
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Liaisons in the Voynich text - by quimqu - 03-11-2026, 10:06 AM
RE: Liaisons in the Voynich text - by nablator - 03-11-2026, 10:48 AM
RE: Liaisons in the Voynich text - by quimqu - 03-11-2026, 11:07 AM
RE: Liaisons in the Voynich text - by ololololo - 03-11-2026, 11:25 AM
RE: Liaisons in the Voynich text - by quimqu - 03-11-2026, 11:45 AM
RE: Liaisons in the Voynich text - by Bluetoes101 - 03-11-2026, 12:20 PM
RE: Liaisons in the Voynich text - by Bernd - 03-11-2026, 12:27 PM
RE: Liaisons in the Voynich text - by quimqu - 03-11-2026, 12:58 PM
RE: Liaisons in the Voynich text - by tavie - 03-11-2026, 02:34 PM
RE: Liaisons in the Voynich text - by quimqu - 03-11-2026, 03:45 PM
RE: Liaisons in the Voynich text - by nablator - 03-11-2026, 03:15 PM
RE: Liaisons in the Voynich text - by quimqu - 03-11-2026, 03:52 PM
RE: Liaisons in the Voynich text - by quimqu - 03-11-2026, 04:36 PM
RE: Liaisons in the Voynich text - by nablator - 03-11-2026, 05:35 PM
RE: Liaisons in the Voynich text - by tavie - 03-11-2026, 10:24 PM
RE: Liaisons in the Voynich text - by quimqu - 03-11-2026, 11:16 PM
RE: Liaisons in the Voynich text - by todihk - 04-11-2026, 12:15 PM
RE: Liaisons in the Voynich text - by ololololo - 04-11-2026, 12:59 PM
RE: Liaisons in the Voynich text - by quimqu - 04-11-2026, 09:28 PM
RE: Liaisons in the Voynich text - by todihk - 05-11-2026, 10:03 AM
RE: Liaisons in the Voynich text - by quimqu - 05-11-2026, 10:13 AM
RE: Liaisons in the Voynich text - by tavie - 04-11-2026, 11:16 PM
RE: Liaisons in the Voynich text - by quimqu - 04-11-2026, 11:33 PM
RE: Liaisons in the Voynich text - by JoJo_Jost - 05-11-2026, 06:41 AM
RE: Liaisons in the Voynich text - by quimqu - 05-11-2026, 10:32 AM
RE: Liaisons in the Voynich text - by Torsten - 05-11-2026, 02:26 PM
RE: Liaisons in the Voynich text - by quimqu - 06-11-2026, 09:09 PM
RE: Liaisons in the Voynich text - by nablator - 07-11-2026, 03:55 PM
RE: Liaisons in the Voynich text - by tavie - 06-11-2026, 09:25 PM
RE: Liaisons in the Voynich text - by todihk - 07-11-2026, 08:33 PM
RE: Liaisons in the Voynich text - by nablator - 07-11-2026, 09:37 PM
RE: Liaisons in the Voynich text - by quimqu - 07-11-2026, 10:42 PM
RE: Liaisons in the Voynich text - by quimqu - 07-11-2026, 11:15 PM
RE: Liaisons in the Voynich text - by nablator - 07-11-2026, 11:30 PM
RE: Liaisons in the Voynich text - by quimqu - 07-11-2026, 11:59 PM
RE: Liaisons in the Voynich text - by nablator - 08-11-2026, 12:08 AM
RE: Liaisons in the Voynich text - by quimqu - 08-11-2026, 11:31 AM
RE: Liaisons in the Voynich text - by todihk - 08-11-2026, 01:07 AM
RE: Liaisons in the Voynich text - by Mauro - 08-11-2026, 01:08 PM
RE: Liaisons in the Voynich text - by ololololo - 08-11-2026, 11:50 AM
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