Zodiac Imagery: Manuscript Collection/Discussion
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Hello all, 

Work on the spreadsheet has still been continuing, although at a slightly slower pace so I could take a break and not damage my mouse-holding hand. I appreciate all of the additions being sent  Smile

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New library additions:

Entries have now been added from:

The Oxford Bodleian Library (~40+ sources added, including many english works)
Manuscriptorium (~15+ sources added, including a bunch of czech works)

As well as many from other sources previously missed from the BnF, ÖNB, Vatican, Met Museum and others. e-codices is a difficult and slow process, because they seem to throttle the connection if you sneeze in the general direction of their site  Tongue 

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New Mediums:

Thanks to Pierre, I also have added many entries from stonework, mozaics, or frescoes, many of which from Italy. Some of them have not been added though, as I could not find any decent enough images of the zodiac signs to add. For some others, I managed to find the signs hidden within certain youtube video tours, but to do that for every entry isn't feasible. 

(Reminder to anyone visiting italy: if you are taking images of zodiac signs above front entrances or on the walls, please zoom in.. or use a phone made after 2010! And if you decide to take the picture of one sign, please do the rest!!)

I am currently also looking at non-manuscript entries from the Met Museum and elsewhere, including paintings, metalwork, and ceramic decorations. After all, the VMS author took their inspiration from somewhere, which may have included their dinner plate or the inkwell on their desk!

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Time period matches:

I have added a (rough) feature displaying whether an entry matches the VMS in its dating. This is a more of an art than a science, because many dating ranges are very broad, and often include simply "14th century" or "15th Century". Although the same 0, 0.5, 1, 1.5 system is being used here, these scores do not affect the scoring directly. However, the lists for each sign will probably be sorted using these values (after their total score), meaning entries on the same total score will be ordered from most relevant time period to least.

Some of my justifications for this are a result of trial and error, but the idea is effectively this:
1404-1435 is certainly relevant with regards to carbon dating. 
1390-1403 and 1436-1449 are potentially relevant (someone in 1390 could easily have been active in 1405, and someone active in 1430 could have easily been active in 1445).
So:
If the dating range is 100% relevant, perfect. 
If the dating range is contains definitely relevant parts, good. 
If the dating range contains the relevant parts, but is part of a huge range, okay. 
If the dating range contains only potentially relevant parts, okay. 
If the dating range contains only potentially relevant parts, but begins far too early or ends far too late, meh, maybe.  
If the dating range doesn't match at all, bad.

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1400-1425AD
Unknown location, written in German

I could use some help identifying what this work is, or what context these symbols are being used within. All of the zodiac symbols are present, but are intermixed with other symbols/animals. Is this astrological use, or something else?
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RE: Zodiac Imagery: Manuscript Collection/Discussion - by eggyk - 21-09-2026, 11:06 AM

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