[split] Big f116v spillover thread.

[Koen G]

‘umen’ is a common Alemannic word.

So far, the only attestation I can find is 19thC Allemanic: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.

   

"iez ist ir mir um en Neuthaler nit feil"
"now is he (to) me for a Neuthaler not for sale"

Where the Kitzbuhel attestation has "umb ain [coin type]", this 19thC Allemanic verse has "um en [coin type]".

That's monophthongization (or lack of diphthongization) and the simplification of word-final -mb clusters.I assume this is more likely to happen in some dialects than others. Maybe even Low German or Central dialects (Franconian?)

(I wouldn't pay attention to this if it weren't for the fact that our only attestation of ingredient "poxleber" is followed by "umb ain").