(23-07-2026, 12:14 PM)Bernd wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.Regarding gais mich
There's the still unresolved issue of of 'gaismich gens' in a legal deed from 14th century Austria.
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We still have no idea what gaismich means in this context, other than it is related to geese to be paid as tithe. Adjectives before such tithe animals usually refer to dates or holidays where the tithe is to be paid but it makes no sense here.
There are also the rare use of '-mich' as some sort of '-guy' or '-man'. Michel is still used today as the personification of a German guy. The word appears to be more middle- or northern German though but I haven't looked much into it.
Kaufmich -> businessman
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Zwingmich -> stubborn person who forces his will upon others
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Do I believe this is related to the VM? Honestly I have no idea if this word(s) have anything to do with goats or milk. We are not dealing with an isolated word that's hard to read, we are dealing with isolated words that may be readable. I am however certain that whatever that circle after '-mich' is - it's not a standard letter 'o'.
I agree with the "o"!
"gaismich"
Here certain attributes are assigned to the animals:
"die den chaes fuer sechtzehen wienner phennig vnd zehen "herbst hvenr" vnd sechs "vaschang huenr" vnd vier gaismich Gens."
Herbs hvenr = autumn chickens
Vaschang huenr = Fasching (Carnival) chickens.
That’s probably why “gaismich” is also just a "prefix". So it has to be a name. gaismich maybe is the shortened form of “gaismichl” = Goatmichael. “Gaismichel” is therefore most likely simply a name here—either of a person (which was not uncommon) or even of a farm. (Furthermore, geese were fattened not with milk but with food scraps, since they are grain-eaters.)
The other words:
“Zwingmich” = force me; is a compound imperative that was combined into a single word (noun), which is typical of a certain historical period. That’s why we have terms like “Habenichts” (have nothing)—someone who has no money—or “Störenfried” (troublemaker) or “Nimmersatt” (insatiable)—someone who can never get enough to eat. At the core, however, is a verb: [zwingen] to compel, [stören] to disturb, [sattsein] to be full.
“Kaufmich” (= “buy me”) for “Kaufmann” (= merchant) probably also falls into this category.
here is the "mich" = me
In my opinion, though, that has nothing to do with “gasmich”—the “i” would still be missing! (and gas ist not a verb)
And even if the “i” were a spelling mistake, it would be a name: “gaismichl,” and it still wouldn't have anything to do with “milch / milich” = milk...


