26-06-2026, 02:04 PM
(25-06-2026, 01:16 PM)eggyk wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.Here we see the clearest example yet of a french+German mix.
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1463AD, Bavaria N, Bamberg?
Original Author: Ortolfus von Würzburg, aka Ortolf von Baierland ca 13thC
Wow, this one is really all over the place. I had a closer look. It's very interesting.
The text includes a Latin paragraph for each month, and this Latin (not French) has an effect on the way the month names are used in the vernacular parts. For example, the ablative form of "September" is "Septembre". So when you want to say "in September" in Latin, you use the ablative form: "in Septembre".
And indeed, the scribe uses the Latin ablative form whenever he says "in month", even in the vernacular.
You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view. has "september" in Latin and the vernacular as the subject (nominative)
You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view. has "in dem september", which appears to be fully vernacularized. Also cases of "october" in both languages, nominative.
fYou are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view. has the Latin ablatives "in septembre" and "in octobre", but used in the vernacular. My guess would be that the scribe sees "in Septembre" as a Latin phrase that can be used in the vernacular.
So long story short: this has nothing to do with French, but it's rather standard scribal showboating with Latin phrases. In the VM, however, we see what must be nominative cases, making French influence the most likely option.


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