A One-Page Ledger Method for Generating Voynich-Like Text
(31-05-2026, 05:22 AM)rikforto wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.Depending on what you mean by "replicate", if the process was not entirely algorithmic and also meaningless, there is a good chance that we will never be able to say with certainty we have the method

Here's what I mean by replicate.  This is output from my analyzer which is in the repo in the OP.  I had GPT convert the output to BBCode to format it for this forum.  I'll do 3 more posts with other pages and scribes to show this isn't a 1-off occurence.

This shows the source for every word on f1v.  Only 1 word doesn't come from You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view. and only 2 words are edit distance 2.  Note: It only looks at words length >= 3 as length 1 and 2 can be very easily replicated.

Interpretation: This table shows that with the exception of 1 token, all other tokens are a product of copy/mutate from You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view. or a copy/mutate from a previously written token on f1v.

If the "algorithmic method" can be figured out for how they did this, then replication (not duplication) will be possible.  And that's what I'm trying to accomplish with my generator.  So far, I haven't found an exact method and, as Torsten Timm has pointed out, it's likely a very human method which is not going to be duplicated in code easily. 

I've stated this before but I'll keep clarifying: I'm not saying this was the method for creating the Voynich.  I'm simply asking if it could have been the method.  And, if copy/mutate + ledger becomes plausible then then objections that such a process is impossible or even unlikely become much harder to maintain.

You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view. provenance test

Green = ED0 / exact copy after gallows stripping
Blue = ED1 after gallows stripping
Orange = ED2 after gallows stripping
Red = no prior match

Core tokens requiring prior source


f1v tokenstrippedf1v locparentparent strippedsourcemethod
kchsychsy1:1cphoychoyf1r:7:4ED1
chadaiinchadaiin1:2chodaiinchodaiinf1r:16:6ED1
oltcheyolchey1:4okcheyocheyf1r:25:4ED1
charchar1:5ckharcharf1r:2:2ED0
yteeayyeeay2:1NO PRIOR MATCH——NO MATCH
ochyochy2:4cphychyf1r:13:4ED1
dchodcho2:5ychoychof1r:17:1ED1
lkodylody2:6teodyeodyf1r:10:3ED1
okodaroodar2:7odarodarf1r:7:1ED1
chodychody2:8cphoychoyf1r:7:4ED1
dksheeydsheey3:5shekysheyf1r:3:2ED2
daldal3:8daldalf1r:25:5ED0
chokeochoeo4:2choteychoeyf1r:27:4ED1
dairdair4:3dairdairf1r:5:1ED0
socheysochey4:5sckheyscheyf1r:12:7ED1
potoyooy5:1otoloolf1r:21:1ED1
sholshol5:2sholsholf1r:1:5ED0
cphoalchoal5:4cfholcholf1r:9:3ED1
otoaiinooaiin5:8ooiinooiinf1r:4:1ED1
shoshyshoshy5:9shoshyshoshyf1r:11:7ED0
choeeechoeee7:3choteychoeyf1r:27:4ED2
daiindaiin8:11daiindaiinf1r:4:5ED0
taoraor10:1ararf1r:1:3ED1
chotcheychochey10:2chocthychochyf1r:8:4ED1
chodarchodar10:7ctholdarcholdarf1r:24:8ED1

Same-page local derivations

f1v tokenstrippedloclocal parentparent strippedparent locmethod
cfharchar1:6charchar1:5ED0
charchar2:2charchar1:5ED0
ckhychy3:1kchsychsy1:1ED1
ckhocho3:2dchodcho2:5ED1
ckhychy3:3ckhychy3:1ED0
shyshy3:4ckhychy3:1ED1
cthychy3:6ckhychy3:1ED0
kotchodyochody3:7chodychody2:8ED1
doldol4:1daldal3:8ED1
damdam4:4daldal3:8ED1
chokodychoody4:6chodychody2:8ED1
dairdair5:3dairdair4:3ED0
dardar5:5daldal3:8ED1
cheychey5:6kchsychsy1:1ED1
todyody5:7lkodylody2:6ED1
chokychoy6:1kchsychsy1:1ED0
cholchol6:2ckhocho3:2ED1
ctholchol6:3cholchol6:2ED0
sholshol6:4sholshol5:2ED0
okaloal6:5daldal3:8ED1
dolcheydolchey6:6oltcheyolchey1:4ED1
chodochodo6:7chodychody2:8ED1
lollol6:8doldol4:1ED1
chychy6:9ckhychy3:1ED0
cthychy6:10ckhychy3:1ED0
cheolcheol7:4cholchol6:2ED1
doldol7:5doldol4:1ED0
ctheychey7:6cheychey5:6ED0
ykolyol7:7doldol4:1ED1
doldol7:8doldol4:1ED0
dolodolo7:9doldol4:1ED1
ykolyol7:10ykolyol7:7ED0
okolool8:1doldol4:1ED1
sholshol8:2sholshol5:2ED0
kolol8:3doldol4:1ED1
kechyechy8:4ochyochy2:4ED1
cholchol8:5cholchol6:2ED0
cholchol8:7cholchol6:2ED0
ctholchol8:8cholchol6:2ED0
chodychody8:9chodychody2:8ED0
cholchol8:10cholchol6:2ED0
shorshor9:1sholshol5:2ED1
okolool9:2okolool8:1ED0
cholchol9:3cholchol6:2ED0
doldol9:4doldol4:1ED0
dardar9:6dardar5:5ED0
sholshol9:7sholshol5:2ED0
dchordchor9:8dchodcho2:5ED1
otchoocho9:9ochyochy2:4ED1
dardar9:10dardar5:5ED0
shodyshody9:11chodychody2:8ED1
daldal10:3daldal3:8ED0
chodychody10:4chodychody2:8ED0
schodyschody10:5chodychody2:8ED1
polol10:6kolol8:3ED0
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RE: A One-Page Ledger Method for Generating Voynich-Like Text - by Dunsel - 31-05-2026, 12:57 PM

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