An Artificial Construction
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(14-05-2026, 10:59 AM)nablator wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.For comparisons, a metric for the bumpiness of the structural decomposition could be standard deviation of the distribution of all cells in the table, without the empty cells of course.

There could be a 2nd metric for how asymmetric the distribution is: something like the (sum for all (i,j) of abs(cell(i,j) - cell(j,i))) / (sum for all (i,j) of abs(cell(i,j)) + abs(cell(j,i))).

I think this should be weighted by the expected count. There is nothing surprising for a combination that is expected to occur 3 times to actually occur 0 or 6 times, given there are dozens of cells, these would happen very often. However, a combination that is expected to occur 800 times, but only occurs 400 times is a very strong signal.

When I ran similar experiments a few years ago I used other metrics instead of actual/expected ratio, I tried to estimate the probability of each result to happen by chance given the total number of results. This was in pre-LLM time and I remember that the math was complicated, but I think now this can be easily reproduced with an AI assistant.

I'm not very keen on spending much time on this now, my conclusion is basically the same as what @dashstofsk says, that this doesn't look like a natural language. Interestingly, I see this as a strong indication that this is a cipher, while if I understand it correctly, @dashstofsk sees this as an indication of meaningless/hoax text.
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An Artificial Construction - by dashstofsk - 25-06-2025, 10:33 AM
RE: An Artificial Construction - by oshfdk - 25-06-2025, 11:21 AM
RE: An Artificial Construction - by RobGea - 25-06-2025, 12:21 PM
RE: An Artificial Construction - by dashstofsk - 25-06-2025, 12:37 PM
RE: An Artificial Construction - by oshfdk - 25-06-2025, 03:04 PM
RE: An Artificial Construction - by dashstofsk - 25-06-2025, 12:58 PM
RE: An Artificial Construction - by RobGea - 25-06-2025, 02:15 PM
RE: An Artificial Construction - by RobGea - 25-06-2025, 02:53 PM
RE: An Artificial Construction - by dashstofsk - 25-06-2025, 03:19 PM
RE: An Artificial Construction - by dashstofsk - 25-06-2025, 03:39 PM
RE: An Artificial Construction - by dashstofsk - 25-06-2025, 04:46 PM
RE: An Artificial Construction - by davidma - 25-06-2025, 05:32 PM
RE: An Artificial Construction - by dashstofsk - 25-06-2025, 08:25 PM
RE: An Artificial Construction - by Jorge_Stolfi - 17-11-2025, 12:39 AM
RE: An Artificial Construction - by ReneZ - 17-11-2025, 09:24 AM
RE: An Artificial Construction - by JoJo_Jost - 13-05-2026, 06:52 AM
RE: An Artificial Construction - by oshfdk - 13-05-2026, 09:54 AM
RE: An Artificial Construction - by dashstofsk - 13-05-2026, 07:56 AM
RE: An Artificial Construction - by JoJo_Jost - 13-05-2026, 08:09 AM
RE: An Artificial Construction - by oshfdk - 13-05-2026, 04:29 PM
RE: An Artificial Construction - by oshfdk - 13-05-2026, 07:57 PM
RE: An Artificial Construction - by Jorge_Stolfi - 13-05-2026, 10:29 PM
RE: An Artificial Construction - by oshfdk - 13-05-2026, 10:59 PM
RE: An Artificial Construction - by Jorge_Stolfi - 13-05-2026, 11:33 PM
RE: An Artificial Construction - by oshfdk - 14-05-2026, 10:06 AM
RE: An Artificial Construction - by nablator - 14-05-2026, 10:59 AM
RE: An Artificial Construction - by oshfdk - 14-05-2026, 11:10 AM
RE: An Artificial Construction - by Jorge_Stolfi - 14-05-2026, 02:17 PM
RE: An Artificial Construction - by oshfdk - 14-05-2026, 03:03 PM
RE: An Artificial Construction - by Jorge_Stolfi - 14-05-2026, 10:24 PM
RE: An Artificial Construction - by oshfdk - 15-05-2026, 12:14 AM
RE: An Artificial Construction - by nintus - 13-05-2026, 07:41 PM
RE: An Artificial Construction - by dashstofsk - 14-05-2026, 03:19 PM
RE: An Artificial Construction - by oshfdk - 14-05-2026, 04:37 PM
RE: An Artificial Construction - by rikforto - 14-05-2026, 08:36 PM
RE: An Artificial Construction - by oshfdk - 14-05-2026, 10:16 PM
RE: An Artificial Construction - by ReneZ - 14-05-2026, 11:42 PM
RE: An Artificial Construction - by oshfdk - 15-05-2026, 12:04 AM
RE: An Artificial Construction - by Jorge_Stolfi - 15-05-2026, 11:33 AM
RE: An Artificial Construction - by Jorge_Stolfi - 15-05-2026, 12:24 AM
RE: An Artificial Construction - by ReneZ - 15-05-2026, 12:27 AM
RE: An Artificial Construction - by oshfdk - 15-05-2026, 08:58 AM
RE: An Artificial Construction - by rikforto - 15-05-2026, 01:41 PM
RE: An Artificial Construction - by oshfdk - 15-05-2026, 11:40 PM
RE: An Artificial Construction - by JoJo_Jost - 16-05-2026, 05:21 AM
RE: An Artificial Construction - by oshfdk - 16-05-2026, 05:22 PM
RE: An Artificial Construction - by Jorge_Stolfi - 16-05-2026, 10:12 PM
RE: An Artificial Construction - by oshfdk - 16-05-2026, 10:46 PM
RE: An Artificial Construction - by ReneZ - 16-05-2026, 05:39 AM
RE: An Artificial Construction - by JoJo_Jost - 16-05-2026, 07:21 AM
RE: An Artificial Construction - by ReneZ - 16-05-2026, 05:45 AM
RE: An Artificial Construction - by ReneZ - 16-05-2026, 08:15 AM
RE: An Artificial Construction - by JoJo_Jost - 16-05-2026, 09:07 AM
RE: An Artificial Construction - by oshfdk - 16-05-2026, 05:32 PM
RE: An Artificial Construction - by RadioFM - 16-05-2026, 06:48 PM
RE: An Artificial Construction - by nablator - 16-05-2026, 07:19 PM
RE: An Artificial Construction - by oshfdk - 16-05-2026, 08:50 PM
RE: An Artificial Construction - by oshfdk - 16-05-2026, 05:56 PM
RE: An Artificial Construction - by nablator - 16-05-2026, 06:32 PM
RE: An Artificial Construction - by nablator - 16-05-2026, 06:59 PM

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