(20-02-2026, 01:40 PM)Koen G wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.About "o" in June/July, you make a good point. However, u>o would still need a sound shift
The pronunciations of "oin" and "uin" are very very close or identical now in (northern) France, they may have been more different in the past, but maybe not everywhere. Even without a sound shift the two may have been considered phonetically equivalent in some areas or (even more likely) by a foreigner having the usual difficulties with in/un/an/on/oin/uin.
"joint" \ʒwɛ̃\ You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.
Several pronunciations of "juin": \ʒɥɛ̃\ or \ʒy.ɛ̃\ or \ʒy.œ̃\ (Canada) or \ʒwɛ̃\ You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.