14-02-2026, 07:56 PM
(This post was last modified: 14-02-2026, 07:57 PM by AliciaNelPresente.)
Thanks everyone for the replies, this is getting interesting. I want to address the critical points raised because I think we are hovering over something important.
[quote="nablator" pid='79652' dateline='1771082974']
I wouldn't trust this article to identify anything. It's AI slop.
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I appreciate the skepticism. However, regarding the "AI slop" label, I would ask that you let me judge the content based on my own experience. To me, this reads as a structured academic proposal, not generated noise. If there are specific methodological flaws in the math, let's debate those.
[quote="Rafal" pid='79654' dateline='1771084795']
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Slop or not, it repeats the well known facts but is extremely vague when it comes to anything new. It doesn't give you any working cipher like Naibbe. And it doesn't give you any hint if the Voynich text is meaningful or not.
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With all due respect, I believe there are two options here: either the paper wasn't read closely, or the implication of its core finding wasn't fully visualized. Both are understandable. Pincar isn't trying to sell us a dictionary, he is defining an architecture.
To put it simply for everyone following the thread: This means the glyph you write now is mechanically forced by the glyph you wrote immediately before.
Think of a combination lock or a gear system. If you are at position 'A', you physically can only move to position 'B'. You cannot jump to 'Z'. This eliminates free will, grammar, and narrative flow. It proves the system has "immediate mechanical memory" but no long term narrative memory.
Why the Volvelle explains what linguistics theories cannot? This brings me back to the argument for the 3 Disk Volvelle. If we accept Pincar’s "state dependency" as true, a physical device with concentric rings (Prefix-Root-Suffix) is the only hypothesis that satisfies and replicates the two most difficult statistical "demons" of the manuscript:
The lexical Poverty (Broken Zipf's Law) and the low entropy
If I'm wrong about something, please correct me. I love feedback and I'm here to learn, as a good philosophy teacher used to say in class, knowledge takes up no space!
Oh my gosh, I don't think I quite understand how the “Quote” function works. Sorry about that haha
[quote="nablator" pid='79652' dateline='1771082974']
I wouldn't trust this article to identify anything. It's AI slop.
[/quote]
I appreciate the skepticism. However, regarding the "AI slop" label, I would ask that you let me judge the content based on my own experience. To me, this reads as a structured academic proposal, not generated noise. If there are specific methodological flaws in the math, let's debate those.
[quote="Rafal" pid='79654' dateline='1771084795']
[quote]
Slop or not, it repeats the well known facts but is extremely vague when it comes to anything new. It doesn't give you any working cipher like Naibbe. And it doesn't give you any hint if the Voynich text is meaningful or not.
[/quote]
With all due respect, I believe there are two options here: either the paper wasn't read closely, or the implication of its core finding wasn't fully visualized. Both are understandable. Pincar isn't trying to sell us a dictionary, he is defining an architecture.
To put it simply for everyone following the thread: This means the glyph you write now is mechanically forced by the glyph you wrote immediately before.
Think of a combination lock or a gear system. If you are at position 'A', you physically can only move to position 'B'. You cannot jump to 'Z'. This eliminates free will, grammar, and narrative flow. It proves the system has "immediate mechanical memory" but no long term narrative memory.
Why the Volvelle explains what linguistics theories cannot? This brings me back to the argument for the 3 Disk Volvelle. If we accept Pincar’s "state dependency" as true, a physical device with concentric rings (Prefix-Root-Suffix) is the only hypothesis that satisfies and replicates the two most difficult statistical "demons" of the manuscript:
The lexical Poverty (Broken Zipf's Law) and the low entropy
If I'm wrong about something, please correct me. I love feedback and I'm here to learn, as a good philosophy teacher used to say in class, knowledge takes up no space!
Oh my gosh, I don't think I quite understand how the “Quote” function works. Sorry about that haha


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